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Rishi Sunak is working on tough new anti-strike laws

258 replies

Emotionalsupportviper · 08/12/2022 12:21

We don't have a government in this country any more.

We have a dictatorship.

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Soothsayer1 · 08/12/2022 14:11

Either a company will reduce their workforce to pay for the increase
do you think the NHS will reduce their workforce? They already can't get enough people to work for them because the pay & conditions are so bad, there are lots of jobs going unfilled because of pay and conditions so bad it's not worth doing them

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 08/12/2022 14:11

I would love for everyone to be paid exactly what they're asking for, but the purse just doesn't have the money because it was pissed up the wall during covid

I saw on the news we would need to find an extra £26 billion. I cant pay anymore tax to fund this!

Police havent had a decent payrise in decades and arent allowed to strike. I got my first payrise in 3 years and it worked out to an extra 48p a month and we cant strike either.

Not to mention the very real risk of increased wages means more spending, which means more demand, which means higher inflation, which means more demands for increased wages etc etc.

It's disgusting that we can no longer live a decent life on our incomes, but I'm not sure endless strikes are any good really. We need to be grateful for any offers of increased pay if we can get it.

Miajk · 08/12/2022 14:06

PortiasBiscuit · 08/12/2022 12:22

I do think striking around Christmas is just mean though!

I think what's more mean is useless greedy bosses and shareholders that could have prevented and solved the problem immediately but didn't.

Instead they stay greedy and pit working people against each other.

Grimchmas · 08/12/2022 14:01

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy

I don't think you've been paying attention to what's been happening to the lowest paid workers pay for years, and where this last few years of inflation has come from.

When the highest in the chains of command take below the rate of inflation pay rises for the same number of years, maybe then it will be tolerated better.

Our politicians consistently give themselves many times the rate of inflation pay increases year on year. The house of Lords votes to not even switch to a cheaper brand of champagne for their jollies ffs, while postal workers, NHS and all the rest of us struggle to survive on salaries that were once considered decent enough to live on. It's not even just the lowest paid workers any more, it's the middle, too.

1000yellowdaisies · 08/12/2022 14:00

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 08/12/2022 13:33

Im fed up of the strikes. People applied and got jobs knowing their salary.

It's like every single sector is now deciding to strike and guess what happens? We pay the price of that.
With the cost of living how can we cover the costs of companies increasing the costs of goods and services (which they will do to cover the increased salaries).
If all public sector workers got a pay increase in line with inflation it would cost every single UK household £1000 a year. This was on the news last night.

I don't think people fully think through the consequences of higher salaries. Either a company will reduce their workforce to pay for the increase, or they will increase the cost to you.

So a nurse who started in the NHS years ago could know that years down the line she'd be getting a below inflation pay rise year after year (effectively a pay cut) and she just accepts it? Your argument is nonsense.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 08/12/2022 13:33

Im fed up of the strikes. People applied and got jobs knowing their salary.

It's like every single sector is now deciding to strike and guess what happens? We pay the price of that.
With the cost of living how can we cover the costs of companies increasing the costs of goods and services (which they will do to cover the increased salaries).
If all public sector workers got a pay increase in line with inflation it would cost every single UK household £1000 a year. This was on the news last night.

I don't think people fully think through the consequences of higher salaries. Either a company will reduce their workforce to pay for the increase, or they will increase the cost to you.

MarshaBradyo · 08/12/2022 13:29

It looks fairly split on YouGov although the question doesn’t exactly match re bringing in laws.

Op do you think Labour would meet all pay demands - How would they fund it?

Soothsayer1 · 08/12/2022 13:23

DuchessDandelion · 08/12/2022 13:15

I hate to bring Brexit into it but this was one of the political motivations.

Well yes, after we voted for it they all got busy spinning to see what they could do to turn it to their advantage and make a profit out of it, they try to find out what the people want and then they serve the people something that looks like what they want but is actually designed to make them richer
The rules are designed to entrench and further the power of those who lord it over us

Chippy1234 · 08/12/2022 13:17

Labour are in the pockets of the unions. What will they do?

DuchessDandelion · 08/12/2022 13:15

I hate to bring Brexit into it but this was one of the political motivations.

Soothsayer1 · 08/12/2022 13:06

Emperor Rishie👑 up there in his ivory tower looking down at all us ants has no idea that he's completely naked
people do not bow and scrape to him as he imagines they will, we will not doff our caps to these ridiculous relics of feudalism

LadyKenya · 08/12/2022 12:58

Grimchmas · 08/12/2022 12:37

This should come as a surprise to nobody.

They've already stripped rights to protest.

It's terrifying. And we're all just sat here like tutting chickens.

This. I fully support those workers who are striking.

Quveas · 08/12/2022 12:58

KnittedCardi · 08/12/2022 12:51

I think there needs to some measures in place to stop the wholesale holding of the country to ransom. You talk about democracy.

Only 25% of workers belong to a union, and maybe only 50%, let's be generous, 60% of those voted to strike. So say a generous 15% of workers are holding the majority 85% to ransom, and that's only workers, not to mention everyone else in the country, children, teens, the elderly, those that are not working due to illness or disability. Less way less than 15% of the population, 5% (?) making everyone else lives a misery. Very democratic.

And nobody voted for Rishi Sunak... or these policies. Call an election on the policies and see what the public think!

KnittedCardi · 08/12/2022 12:51

I think there needs to some measures in place to stop the wholesale holding of the country to ransom. You talk about democracy.

Only 25% of workers belong to a union, and maybe only 50%, let's be generous, 60% of those voted to strike. So say a generous 15% of workers are holding the majority 85% to ransom, and that's only workers, not to mention everyone else in the country, children, teens, the elderly, those that are not working due to illness or disability. Less way less than 15% of the population, 5% (?) making everyone else lives a misery. Very democratic.

Tonysopranosghost · 08/12/2022 12:48

Get ta fuck Rishi.

AddieLoggins2 · 08/12/2022 12:47

Then they came for the trade unionists...

Horsesandzebras · 08/12/2022 12:47

We're stuck in the UK (unless you are wealthy enough to get your visa out of here)
We're having our right to protest removed
We're having our right to strike removed
We're denying refugees safe routes
We're struggling to get the basic needs of the population met
Human rights are being torn up

This is all Political choice.

igivein · 08/12/2022 12:46

It’s a shame he can’t devote his time to coming up with plans to sort the country out so people didn’t feel the need to strike.

pechecreme · 08/12/2022 12:44

louisana1102 · 08/12/2022 12:36

Is Royal Mail in strike today?

No it's Friday and Sunday.

pechecreme · 08/12/2022 12:43

PortiasBiscuit · 08/12/2022 12:22

I do think striking around Christmas is just mean though!

I think hard working employees having their rights taken away and struggling to feed their families and heat their homes is mean. I don't give a shit if it means your Xmas pressies are a bit late.

Grimchmas · 08/12/2022 12:37

This should come as a surprise to nobody.

They've already stripped rights to protest.

It's terrifying. And we're all just sat here like tutting chickens.

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 08/12/2022 12:36

'Merry Christmas Maggie Thatcher'

louisana1102 · 08/12/2022 12:36

Is Royal Mail in strike today?

LaurieFairyCake · 08/12/2022 12:34

Of course the public are in favour of strikes now they know nurses and people working with the most vulnerable are actually visiting FOOD BANKS after working a full time job!

Soothsayer1 · 08/12/2022 12:30

I don't think he has as much as leverage as he thinks he does, the public are more in favour of strikes than the government realise plus we do not have a shortage of jobs people in the public sector could just leave and get work elsewhere