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Do we have any hope of an early general election?

44 replies

namechanged1233 · 14/10/2022 14:39

It goes without saying UK politics is in a mess! I think most of the country now thinks a general election is needed to make the changes needed

But a general election isn't due until January 2025. Do we have any chance of an early general election before then? I can't see the conservatives voting for it as they know they will lose.

Is there any other way? (I'm not particularly knowledgeable about politics and genuinely intrigued)

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donquixotedelamancha · 15/10/2022 14:34

As his chancellor burgled all the pension funds and crashed the economy, well, yes!

Eh? I never voted for Blair but even I will admit we had: a decade of economic stability the like of which the Tories have not delived post war, no significant increase in tax burden (unlike Thatcher, Major and Cameron) and a competent response to the crash under him and Brown.

The reason the initial crash was followed by a decade without growth was Cameron/Osborne's policy of cutting captial investment while keeping taxes high. The US had a far worse response to the initial crisis and was hit harder but they recovered much faster because Obama pursued the polar opposite strategy.

I could spend all day listing my problems with Blair era policies but compared to what has come since he looks like a fucking economic genius.

MarshaBradyo · 15/10/2022 14:30

I doubt it, the 80 seat majority is still there and they won’t want to just throw it away yet

donquixotedelamancha · 15/10/2022 14:27

It seems very unlikely. A lot of the Tories who might have put national interest first and voted for it were forced out by Johnson. I can't see anywhere near the numbers needed to trigger a GE rebelling, even as things get worse and worse.

We may well get another PM or two between now and the election. Frankly I'm tempted to put a bet on BJ being the next PM if I can get good odds- things are that nuts.

ThreeFeetTall · 15/10/2022 14:25

Just looked at the Daily Mail and saw this- it must be what Conservative central office has put in its press release today Hmm

Do we have any hope of an early general election?
GCAcademic · 15/10/2022 14:18

As his chancellor burgled all the pension funds and crashed the economy, well, yes!

Was it just a coincidence that other economies globally crashed at the same time, or was Brown responsible for that too?

ThreeFeetTall · 15/10/2022 14:17

The 2008 crash was down to Gordon brown?

Kellie45 · 15/10/2022 14:13

ThreeFeetTall · 15/10/2022 14:12

Can't believe people are still blaming Blair Confused

As his chancellor burgled all the pension funds and crashed the economy, well, yes!

ThreeFeetTall · 15/10/2022 14:12

Can't believe people are still blaming Blair Confused

ThreeFeetTall · 15/10/2022 14:11

Hmmm, I think the labour shadow chancellor being a former Bank of England economist means labour would do things better. The current tories are really the bottom of the barrel.

SuspiciousHedgehog · 15/10/2022 14:00

Nice try!

Kellie45 · 15/10/2022 07:17

The problem is when you use the word hope. Labour are probably going to be worse than the Conservatives seeing the lack of competence in their party and the problems they face. The problem of course goes back to when Blair was elected.
Whatever you think of John major and his government he had managed to balance the books and of course that gay Blair a free ride to grin and spend with his gormless Chancellor so that we got by on borrowing. Successive governments have done that and now the chickens have come home to roost in that we cannot keep borrowing without growth. Liz Truss at least tried to deal with the problem but probably in the wrong way at the wrong time but the blob decided they were in charge and squashed it.
So if you ‘hope’ for a general election you are barking up the wrong tree.

MrsTuxedo · 15/10/2022 07:12

I wish!

TizerorFizz · 14/10/2022 23:02

@mnahmnah
No. It cannot improve because we are in a global downturn. We can manage it better though. We need people who are aware of possible reactions to their policies. Labour has little experience either and not much obvious talent either. We are seeing inflation that gives big problems. So do rising interest rates. So does high spending on COVID and heating bills. We have a disastrous exchange rates. We have big holes in pension pots. People cannot afford homes or even retire. Business is spooked and won’t invest. So, what could Labour do? Very little. But going carefully would be a good idea.

mnahmnah · 14/10/2022 22:28

It’s honestly got to a point for me now that even if labour got in, would everything suddenly improve?! I always vote. I urge others to vote. But I just don’t feel confident that any result would make a difference. Cynical I know.

TizerorFizz · 14/10/2022 22:22

@somewhereovertherain
The conservatives still have a whopping majority. The party is in disarray but they won’t relish giving up their jobs by being voted out. However they could earn more doing something else. This is why we end up with MPs who are not good enough.

somewhereovertherain · 14/10/2022 22:18

We need it now.

Unescorted · 14/10/2022 22:16

It the government loses a vote of no confidence then a GE can be called. The question is who will table it and would 80 Tory MPs cross the floor... potentially losing their jobs 2 years early.

LizzieSiddal · 14/10/2022 22:14

I don’t think it will happen because the Backbenchers will get rid of Truss rather than call an election.

TizerorFizz · 14/10/2022 22:12

No. The Government can now call one early if they wish. However they won’t. They are so far behind in the polls they would be mad to call an election. The Fixed Term Parliament Act 2011 has been dissolved and a new act came in this April giving greater flexibility.