Can we talk about Labour's plans?

Not a fan of Keir but I think this is a win win situation. More green energy and less reliance on other countries and big firms. Unfortunately, we are stuck with Truss and her cabinet of sociopaths in the meantime.

I doubt it.

Ed Miliband has really grown on me. I think I was quite dismissive of him in the past which I'm a bit ashamed of now. I think I fell foul of the Ed v David circus and tuned him out.

I think we can all get on board with their plan to fast track DV and rape cases, more court sitting days and expansion of sexual assault referral clinics.

"The former director of public prosecutions (DPP) said he initially could not believe the statistics, and asked his team to double-check them. “1.6% is staggeringly bad. And it’s an indictment on the government that the percentage is where it is.”
The most recent figures from the Crown Prosecution Service show that while there was a 63% increase in the volume of rape prosecutions from 1,557 in 2020-21 to 2,537 in 2021-2022, the conviction rate dropped from 71% to 69%.
Victims are also waiting longer for justice after half of all courts were shut by successive Conservative-led governments since 2010, with additional cuts to the number of days judges can sit on trials."

amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/26/labour-fast-track-rape-domestic-violence-cases-courts

Times are good on this, maybe because detail is being heard now at conference.

They interviewed Ed Miliband this morning on more detail

I can only hope that those who "can't vote Labour" because of their stance on transgender issues will feel equally strongly that they "can't vote Tory" because of the morally repugnant policies that this government is implementing. Or are they prepared for the poor and vulnerable to be thrown under a bus as long as our leaders know what a woman is?

And this attitude of 'I just can't vote Labour' ' I don't know why but I just can't ' baffles me! Can people not vote for policies they believe in?

"I like the idea, but getting the energy companies to do this is another matter. They’re not thinking commercially, and the lack of business foresight worries me, it’s too ideological and they don’t say how they’re going to get stakeholders to agree. If it were this simple we’d be doing this already. "

I think the idea is that the Government will invest alongside commercial enterprise. The Times obviously hadn't given it much coverage 🙄 - the little I could dig up suggests -

"His allies say he has been speaking to business leaders who have told him that they do not want the government to “get out of the way” but instead want an “active partnership”.
“They want the certainty that the government has a backstop for the big projects because they have got lots of money in the pipeline that is not being unleashed because the environment is so uncertain,” the source said."
In terms of community agreement maybe they'll be offered incentives (as per fracking areas)?
As i say it's difficult to get details.

orsted.com/en/media/newsroom/news/2022/08/20220831559011#:~:text=%C3%98rsted%20is%20proud%20to%20announce,clean%20and%20secure%20renewable%20energy.

And another one coming......

Thing is, we already have the second biggest off-shore wind capacity IN THE WORLD! Only after China. In isolation Hornsea 2, is the biggest individual off-shore site. So, it is already happening, and I am therefore not sure that it is the big new idea that is being claimed.

I’m not sure it would work but I’m any case it’s far from what Starmer is proposing - already a statement on Brexit and the conference started with a remembrance to the Queen, 1 minute silence and singing the National anthem

Not sure if it’s usually the case, it doesn’t resonate with me particularly but he’s putting his stake in the ground re monarchy and Brexit

Sorry I see some other posters had covered some of those before I got there.

Labour are demonstrating again today that they are a forward looking modern government in waiting, with ideas that will support everyone in the 21st century.

Maybe if Labour promises to take UK back into the EU - or at least have a referendum - and start dismantling the monarchy then they may win the next election.

This is one of the things I’d like more information on - community consent and how they’ll get it

No we definitely can't talk about Labours plans because they have no policies.

Also Keir had a beer, but Jeremy Corbyn, Boris knows what a woman is.

I like the idea, but getting the energy companies to do this is another matter. They’re not thinking commercially, and the lack of business foresight worries me, it’s too ideological and they don’t say how they’re going to get stakeholders to agree. If it were this simple we’d be doing this already.
But like I said I like it! I’d like to see some meat on the bones of how they’ll achieve this.

There been loads of solar and wind both on and off shore near me proposed
all kicked out due the enormous level of not in my back yard objections
be dubious theses plans would act go ahead

I understand the concerns about identity politics, I really do. It frustrates me deeply that so many in the Labour Party are unwilling to admit what a woman is. (I'm sure that, deep down, they do know.)

However, I don't see any other party that really cares about women's rights either. The Tories are mostly making the right noises about what a woman is, but actions speak louder than words, and women's rights have not been protected on their watch - far from it.

They could say that minimum wage would be put up to £30k a year with a personal tax free allowance of £15k and I still wouldn’t vote for Labour unless they ditch their plans for Self ID and they say that they will uphold and strengthen the Equality act in regards to Womens’ rights.
Gender ideology is just starting to be rolled back in schools etc. Labour and the unions are in the grip of this madness, they are dangerous.

If you think any government infrastructure project, no matter which party is in charge, has been fully costed then I think you’re terribly naive.

I’m probably in same area as you. If they dropped the identity issues (TWAW etc) I’d be happier. They haven’t got my vote yet but I’m really pleased they have a positive plan.

It sounds good. But I can’t vote labour at the moment.

Not sure what you mean by culture wars, tbh.

I will be voting for them for the first time ever, but the hard left should take note that this is only because of the sensible, moderate tone of Kier Starmer. There’s a lot of them that could still lose my vote!

I wouldn't vote for labour at the moment. I have done in the past, but as a floating voter they just seem too weak. And the identity politics is a problem for me. I would struggle to take them seriously as a credible opposition. Sadly.