Tory next move to scrap paid worker’s holidays FFS

It will creep in, bit like how final salary pensions disappeared, rules will be changed on holiday pay at first for just new starters and then it will just gradually encompass everyone

Again, the Govt has no ability to dictate to private sector what they can or cannot do.
Look at UK maternity or Dentistry to see how little both main parties care for you or i

Lack of public sector workers is of no concern to the Government e.g 300k shortage of care workers and 110k nhs workers.

This definitely won’t happen, can you imagine the uproar? Unions wouldn’t let it pass.

It’s worth separating out the employees they’d like to keep - and grow. In terms of skills etc

It doesn’t make sense to drive them away or lose their votes over this

I agree with those saying it'll happen gradually. Initially most employers will keep things as they are for existing employees, but plenty of poorly paid jobs will see contracts for new employees which have reduced holidays. Then x weeks paid holiday will start to be sold as a "bonus" even in higher paid jobs. Gradually the "bonus" will be available to fewer and fewer people.

That's how this stuff happens - they don't do it in one whack, they phase it in. It's like the boiling frog analogy; people just accept lots of small changes until those have added up to a big change.

These things happen over time, so should the Tories win in 2024, thats very possible... she can say she has a mandate to cut hols for new starters but leave it up to employers to decide...
Public service workers wont strike as it won't effect existing staff, just as with FS pensions.

Lack of nurses teachers etc wont bother them, just as having 50% of maternity units declared as unsafe or £8billion paid out in medical maternity claims doesn't bother them.

8 billion!!! that would give free old age care for all for the next 2 years.

It doesn't matter if more people would vote labour - the voting system supported by "boundary changes " in this country means only a few voters actually have any impact

I don't think they will just scrap holidays ,it will creeping a few sectors a time , new starters , new contracts etc, they are prepared to play the long game .

They’ll sneak it in, a bit at a time, most powerless people first. And bit by bit, people will accept it as ‘how things are now’

Reducing the rights of the British back to Victorian standards was the feature of Brexit, not a bug.

They have done it with food, now energy. Next they will pluck every benefit or advantage from you and you can't even protest against it.

I'd be happy with 48 since I usually do 55 and I'm only paid for 37

What is WTD - oh Working time directive I think

Yes I agree if people talk specifically about ZHC etc then maybe

I cannot read that link. But Sky news has a banner top left with the exchange rate and percentage the Conservatives and Labour are receiving in poll averages. Right now it’s 32% conservative, 41.7% labour.

It’s imaginary that an averagely paid earner will think yes I want fewer holiday days

There’s no point in offering SD for that group to undo it with this. They clearly want the middle group on side. They’ll get the high end automatically

@midgetastic not illegal, but police have the right to break up protests that become violent or hugely disruptive.

They won't reduce workers rights in this way? Why not? They've already made it: easier for your employer to fire you; longer until you have job security; difficult and costly to take an employer to an employment tribunal. They also didn't keep their minimum wage promise, raised the age until you can even get the minimum wage, introduced useless apprentiships so rather than an hour of training it now take a year to teach somebody how to make coffee, took away child benefit from those earning over 50k but a couple earning 98k between them can still get it.... No body said anything about this, why would they now? They'll just say we need to do it as British workers are unproductive and coddled, business will leave without a shake up!

Exactly. Some people are so naive. Truss has already said that she doesn't care about her popularity, and made it clear that corporations are her priority.

The Govt introduced 7 day working in the NHS for no additional pay, just time off.

It also wouldn't effect middle earners, their employers would not want to cut holiday entitlement, which can be very generous.

But as with ZHC's at the lower end, anything is possible.

WTD will go long before hols will be cut.

Middle earners are unlikely to lose holidays
That's a perk employers will still offer to keep talent

It's the people at the bottom of the heap where we have a terrible worker shortage that will be affected

It'll be painted as a benefit of Brexit.
Along with shit in the sea and bee killing chemicals on the land.
And the Tory press will cheer and cheer.

@Boreded They won't reduce workers rights in this way? Why not? They've already made it: easier for your employer to fire you; longer until you have job security; difficult and costly to take an employer to an employment tribunal. They also didn't keep their minimum wage promise, raised the age until you can even get the minimum wage, introduced useless apprentiships so rather than an hour of training it now take a year to teach somebody how to make coffee, took away child benefit from those earning over 50k but a couple earning 98k between them can still get it.... No body said anything about this, why would they now? They'll just say we need to do it as British workers are unproductive and coddled, business will leave without a shake up!

And those is just some of the erosion of rights and standards in the UK What about benefit caps, peaceful protests, privatisation of the NHS, reduction of police numbers, council tax rising but services falling, expensive and unreliable public transport...

I bet it will be.

Middle earners won’t go for it no matter what pp say

People are protective over time off and holidays

WTF! Truss has no lead in the poll's, Labour are around 10 pts up on the Tories, she has seen almost no "bounce"

But of course they could reduce hols entitlement, they removed final salary pensions with barely a murmur.

Never under estimate the UK voter 's ability to vote against their own best interests.

Protesting in a way that people might notice is effectively illegal though

Rubbish - do you believe everything you are told
I am sure you know some people who think there was no Covid