Rishi Sunal admits taking money from deprived areas

The Tories are getting more and more brazen with their “fuck the poor” attitude. It’ll probably be their official slogan in a few years.

@hellmannsnotheinz Yes, though arguably this is chiefly through marriage as his wife is the daughter of Narayana Murthy who is worth in the region of 3.1 billion US dollars. When you consider it’s only her and one other brother set to inherit this wealth it certainly puts him in the realm of the super rich. His wife also actively runs or is involved with the directing much of Murthy’s portfolio already.
He is certainly more professional middle class himself by birth from what I can figure out, but his peers in Winchester college would have included the UK upper classes and the children of the global super rich, as well as others like him.

I watched his little speech on TikTok earlier! What an absolute prick

I think he was trying to get the very right wing on board and making them think they made the right decision to vote Tory .
I honestly despair at the way they way they have divided this country

@Anothernamechangeplease you might well be right. Either way, whether it’s a sincere distain for his point of view or the fact that it makes them all look pretty heartless, I reckon we can both agree they’re not going to be all that happy. It confirms everyone else’s worst suspicions.
Conservatives I know seem to be quite pessimistic (they would say realistic) and think that leftie liberals like me are childish dreamers who don’t appreciate that running an economy efficiently is more important for everyone’s well-being than giving money to the poor who will only become dependent. I think all the available evidence shows that investing in poorer communities and providing resources to poorer people is in fact an excellent way of improving both prosperity for the whole country and closing the gap between the richest and poorest to make a fairer society. However, I can see how the “trickledown” or the “rising tides lifts all boats” perspective makes intuitive sense to some Tory voters, it’s one that a lot of them seem to have been raised with so it seems true on a deep level.

I'm honestly not particularly bothered by how rich he is or isn't, (obviously he is exceptionally wealthy).
I am concerned that he has little comprehension about the challenges facing much of the UK populous.
However he is speaking more economic sense than Truss.

As someone who is currently in the USA and has lived around the world I also don't have an issue with people who also do. I object far more to those who use their wealth to manage freedom of movement while removing legal channels for other s with lower incomes to do this.

Yeah, they wouldn't usually tell you in plain sight. The Cameron government cut councils to the bone in poor Labour areas but not Tory ones.

The red wall actually voted Tory partly due to the effects of the cuts which were blamed on Labour councils.

The only thing that surprises me here is that a Tory is honestly admitting to something

Rishi? Yes.

@calmlakes it’s certainly possible to make that case. However, they haven’t even been doing what they’ve been bragging about in Tumbridge wells by the looks of it (see link below). Rishi Sunak’s people aren’t actually the wealthy of Tumbridge Wells, or Tory party members- those people are still more or less peasants compared to the set he runs with. His people are the super rich of London, the Stanford, Harvard and Silicon Valley elite, in his mind anyway. I think that’s why he sees his future in the USA. Tumbridge wells increased demand at foodbanks

I think the essence of what he is saying will absolutely appeal to the average Tory voter. A vote for the Tories, after all, an inherently selfish vote. That's why they exist.

What won't play terribly well is that he hasn't been subtle enough in how he expressed it. Normally, the Tories like to dress things up in terms of rewarding hardworking families, or some such nonsense, as if people from deprived communities are just lazy fucks who can't be arsed to make an effort.

It seems to me that the vast majority of Tories are more than happy to take money away from the poor in order to give it to the rich, because that's what they have been doing for years. However, they do usually like to be allowed to pretend to themselves that they're doing it for the right reasons, and Rishi has just been a bit too honest on this occasion. Nobody likes to be confronted with such uncomfortable truths.

They probably get confused between them when they hear that Labour sack people for supporting workers. Hot damn, you'd have thought that even Keir could get the clue in the name?

There are deprived areas everywhere even in what are, on paper, affluent areas. Until we know the facts it's hard to know what's gone on here.

I do think it is possible to make an alternative case.
There are underprivileged families everywhere. If you only fund areas of high deprivation then the pockets of economically deprived people in better off areas get fewer services than those in more universally deprived areas.
It should be about providing a balance of services in all areas.

Yep! Sums it up nicely.

It absolutely is, but it's unusual to see it discussed so openly.

Summed up perfectly in just 3 simple words.

Nevertheless, it's quite shocking to hear them admit it out loud.

Its the standard Tory levelling down policy.

Take from the poor to give to the rich.

Someone really wants Truss to be the next PM. Wonder who?

yes I want to know the angle

Isn't this why people vote for them?

@hellmannsnotheinz it’s pretty disgraceful isn’t it? People are saying that this rhetoric will appeal to members of the Conservative party who are voting in the leadership contest, but I’m not even sure that’s true. I don’t think many people will really celebrate this attitude, if it was framed more in terms of fairness then it might appeal but many of these voters will still see themselves as fair people with Christian values- values which don’t traditionally include knowingly withholding resources from the most deprived in our society. Describing these areas as deprived specifically adds salt to the wound, because the term reminds us that resources are being withheld by someone from them, and that according to Sunak it’s the government actively withholding/depriving them.

I could be wrong about this of course but it’s almost as though Sunak believes them to be the worst “cartoon villain” version Tory voters, makes me wonder if he really understands his party, let alone his country.
Don’t get me started on the branding people who criticise Britain as extremists, I can’t see any of my conservative friends going for that, just the flip side of Woke cancellation surely? I feel like I’m his desperation to appease the right of the party he has revealed who he thinks they are- and he doesn’t think much of them.

Having said all that, it’s his party so probably he knows better than I do- but I know conservative voters and while I disagree with them on many things I think by and large they are decent people who want the same things as everyone further to the left but they just have a difference in opinion on how that will be achieved.

Agree with PP. Tories gonna Tory.

Someone really wants Truss to be the next PM. Wonder who?

He said the quiet bit out loud there didn't he!?!

I know we all know this is what they have been doing so it is no surprise, but it is still shocking when they state it out loud as if it is an acceptable thing to do. The damage they are doing to the country by depriving those areas of vital funding is dreadful.

As Truss would say: That. Is. A. Disgrace.