PMQs is hillarious

YetiTeri · 02/10/2022 21:08

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Daddy or chips?

MotherofPearl · 02/10/2022 21:06

Presumably so @YetiTeri. All the usual tropes are being wheeled out. So tedious.

Toryscum2 · 02/10/2022 21:01

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YetiTeri · 02/10/2022 21:00

MotherofPearl · 02/10/2022 20:57

I've reported the poster in question. I assume a bot.

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Been a few lately. Tory desperation?

Toryscum2 · 02/10/2022 20:58

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YetiTeri · 02/10/2022 20:56

Oh god you're a bot. Of course you are.

I've reported the poster in question. I assume a bot.

YetiTeri · 02/10/2022 20:56

Oh god you're a bot. Of course you are.

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YetiTeri · 02/10/2022 20:49

That you Owen Jones?

You know to get people to vote for you you'll need a bit more than emojis and cheap insults.

So yes, I'll stick with Starmer and more importantly Ed Milliband's green revolution.

Toryscum2 · 02/10/2022 20:45

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MotherofPearl · 02/10/2022 20:44

@Toryscum2

The answer to those questions about Corbyn might all be 'No' as you point out.

However, the only important question now is ' Can he win an election?' is also a resounding 'No'.

So by all means carry on living on your ideological and moral highground, scorning the Sheeple, but accept that this will mean perpetual Tory rule and NO OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE PEOPLE'S ACTUAL LIVES BETTER.

Toryscum2 · 02/10/2022 20:38

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YetiTeri · 02/10/2022 20:37

If you don't vote Labour, you are voting Tory.

And you are proving just why socialists will never be electable. Still as long as you have your placard, you can ignore all those needing to use a food bank.

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YetiTeri · 02/10/2022 20:20

Truss and Corbyn are basically the same people. The hard right and the hard left are so wedded to their ideology that the don't care about the impact here and now of their policies.

So you can be a socialist all you like, but they won't be voted in. So you carry on with the digs at Starter and instead of a green investment that gives our children the chance of a habitable planet we'll have widespread homelessness, increased child poverty and the decimation of the NHS. That's the reality of not getting behind Starmer.

But you do you.

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Well I know it wasn't aimed at me, but I'll do me... no way will I be voting starmer in!

YetiTeri · 02/10/2022 20:20

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Truss and Corbyn are basically the same people. The hard right and the hard left are so wedded to their ideology that the don't care about the impact here and now of their policies.

So you can be a socialist all you like, but they won't be voted in. So you carry on with the digs at Starter and instead of a green investment that gives our children the chance of a habitable planet we'll have widespread homelessness, increased child poverty and the decimation of the NHS. That's the reality of not getting behind Starmer.

But you do you.

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SummerPuddings · 09/07/2022 06:37

xalo · 06/07/2022 13:41

Sajid Javid's speech was quite emotional. I think he would make a good leader (And I might even be able to vote...)

Christ. Please stop voting tory people!!! 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

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MotherofPearl · 08/07/2022 16:38

PerkingFaintly · 07/07/2022 09:32

The 2017 General Election with Theresa May as Prime Minister saw the Tory party getting the then largest share of the vote since 1983, ie 13,636,684 votes, which was 42.4% compared to Labour's 40.0%. It just didn't translate into seats.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_United_Kingdom_general_election

The 2019 General Election with Boris Johnson as Prime Minister saw the Tory party slightly increasing that to 13,966,454 votes or 43.6% of the vote.

But the Labour Party crashed under the anti-Corbynism and the vote distribution translated into Tory seats (as it should, because that's what the Tory campaign was targetting).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_United_Kingdom_general_election

So "I have a mandate and Theresa didn't" is mince.

It's all just words to Johnson.

A "reason" is needed for something, and he just pumps hot air out of his gob until his listeners have lost the will to pursue.

To be fair to him, it's a technique that's worked well through all his relationships. Crashes badly when he meets a questioner who doesn't give up, though, as he learned yesterday at the Liaison Committee.

Thanks for posting this. Very revealing indeed about Johnson's BS tactics. He is beyond appalling.

PerkingFaintly · 07/07/2022 09:56

Haha, and while I was writing all that, he resigned.

But my comments still pertain.

Never believe a single word he says. He'll be happy to play the victim and rouse a mob to soothe his ego.
Kuenssberg et al need to examine their own behaviour in keeping the illusion going.

PerkingFaintly · 07/07/2022 09:49

See also Laura Kuenssberg blathering recently that, "Any other politician would be toast, but Johnson is an exception."

No pal, he's not.

You and those like you who make exception for him, create an exceptional situation – temporarily.

But it only lasts as long as you do this. It's not real. You can just stop.

Sunak and Javid stopped this week. Look what happened: the curtain was pulled aside and reality crashed in.

PerkingFaintly · 07/07/2022 09:36

TL;DR is that Johnson's "reasons" or "justifications" or "explanations" are almost always mince. Thrown out as distractions like real mince to a pack of guard dogs.

They only work if we agree to be bamboozled and accept them as real.

As soon as we stop accepting them, they stop working.

PerkingFaintly · 07/07/2022 09:32

The 2017 General Election with Theresa May as Prime Minister saw the Tory party getting the then largest share of the vote since 1983, ie 13,636,684 votes, which was 42.4% compared to Labour's 40.0%. It just didn't translate into seats.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_United_Kingdom_general_election

The 2019 General Election with Boris Johnson as Prime Minister saw the Tory party slightly increasing that to 13,966,454 votes or 43.6% of the vote.

But the Labour Party crashed under the anti-Corbynism and the vote distribution translated into Tory seats (as it should, because that's what the Tory campaign was targetting).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_United_Kingdom_general_election

So "I have a mandate and Theresa didn't" is mince.

It's all just words to Johnson.

A "reason" is needed for something, and he just pumps hot air out of his gob until his listeners have lost the will to pursue.

To be fair to him, it's a technique that's worked well through all his relationships. Crashes badly when he meets a questioner who doesn't give up, though, as he learned yesterday at the Liaison Committee.

SnowyLamb · 07/07/2022 07:15

PerkingFaintly · 07/07/2022 00:02

I'm surprised how much airtime the media are giving Johnson's ongoing "mandate of the people" shite – given how he himself first came to power, ie by usurping an elected Prime Minister mid-term.

I guess for the Daily Wail et al have quietly forgotten that. Or rather, they hope we have.

TBF Teresa May didn't have a mandate, that will be how he justified that