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Rishi and Savid both resigned

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Jenasaurus · 05/07/2022 18:20

On LBC now

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SnowyLamb · 05/07/2022 19:03

Themidnightcat · 05/07/2022 18:38

Please can someone explain what this means in a TLDR - is it possible the tories won't be in government anymore or do we not know?

No. I'd guess they both think this the best way to keep a Tory government. The next election is more than 2 years away, plenty of time for the party to regroup under a more credible leader (likely one of them, in their minds). The longer Johnson remains in place the harder it will be for them to win next time.

I don't think this is good news if you're hoping for a change of government. The electorate is basically right wing. I think many would have found it hard to vote for Johnson again, but a straight Labour v Conservative and it will be business as usual by Dec 24 IMO

Runnerbeansflower · 05/07/2022 19:01

I said when the leadership vote was triggered it was over for BJ. Once a leader gets to that point there is no way back.

Didn't know it would be this soon!

3amAndImStillAwake · 05/07/2022 19:00

BJ can trigger a General Election as PM.

Can he? I thought parliament would still have to vote for it?

Runnerbeansflower · 05/07/2022 18:58

BJ can trigger a General Election as PM.

The MPs who think they will lose at an election if called right now will have every incentive (apart from conscience) to prevent it by supporting him.

Those who have a chance at winning if come out at the last minute against BJ have every incentive to oppose it, as the chances are that keeping him in power reduces their chance of keeping their seat when the GE finally comes, as it will eventually.

GCAcademic · 05/07/2022 18:58

PeekAtYou · 05/07/2022 18:55

Correction.
Just watched her on video running into number 10. He's going to make her Chancellor isn't he?

Nah, that will be Michael Fabricant, I reckon. The cabinet of the clowns.

JudgeRindersMinder · 05/07/2022 18:57

BlanketsBanned · 05/07/2022 18:25

They are saying Raab is loyal to bojo

Susannah Reid absolutely annihilated him this morning!

MermaidEyes · 05/07/2022 18:56

Boris and Nadine Dorries have just been spotted heading into No.10, he probably needs a bit of an...ego.....massage......

PeekAtYou · 05/07/2022 18:55

Correction.
Just watched her on video running into number 10. He's going to make her Chancellor isn't he?

Nat6999 · 05/07/2022 18:55

It's just been said on the news that they have most likely resigned ready for a leadership contest.

Ilikewinter · 05/07/2022 18:54

PeekAtYou · 05/07/2022 18:51

Nadine spotted walking into number 10 according to Twitter

Oh dear god please no 🤣😥

PlanetNormal · 05/07/2022 18:53

Themidnightcat · 05/07/2022 18:38

Please can someone explain what this means in a TLDR - is it possible the tories won't be in government anymore or do we not know?

No.

The Tory party still have a majority of almost 80 seats in Parliament. Whoever is leader & PM, they will remain in government until the next general election, which could be as far away as December 2024.

AdamRyan · 05/07/2022 18:52

PeekAtYou · 05/07/2022 18:51

Nadine spotted walking into number 10 according to Twitter

Nooooooo

Runnerbeansflower · 05/07/2022 18:52

I think Javid and Sunak are betting on having enough of a profile to be able to survive without him. Plus the credibility of taking him down (at this very late stage!)

The others? Their careers are over with BJ's, so their only hope is to stay loyal

PeekAtYou · 05/07/2022 18:51

Nadine spotted walking into number 10 according to Twitter

Provenceinthesummer · 05/07/2022 18:50

There are plenty of possibilities for the top jobs, and I am sure the Johnson team will already have someone lined up, this has been well flagged for months. This is the last roll of the die to get rid of Johnson before recess.

GCAcademic · 05/07/2022 18:50

I hope I’m wrong, but I really can’t see Boris resigning. The man has no shame and no concern for anything other than himself, so he gives not a shit if he finishes off the Tories in the next election. Plus he has the cockroach-like ability to survive and thrive that only privileged oiks like him enjoy.

QuebecBagnet · 05/07/2022 18:49

I’m also hoping others will follow like rats leaving a sinking ship and then Boris goes too. The alternative is he stays surrounded by people like JRM, Nadine and Priti Patel…..doesn’t bear thinking about.

Runnerbeansflower · 05/07/2022 18:49

SarahShorty · 05/07/2022 18:45

Would rather not. I'm in the wrong part of Mumsnet. Sorry. Have a nice evening.

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I.e. threw a 'scary' word into the conversation and can't defend (or define) what I said.

Thanks for the clarification, and have a good evening!

3amAndImStillAwake · 05/07/2022 18:49

Ilikewinter · 05/07/2022 18:48

So who on earth is he going to replace them with?

Chancellor Nadine Dorries??

Ilikewinter · 05/07/2022 18:48

So who on earth is he going to replace them with?

Provenceinthesummer · 05/07/2022 18:48

Nothing will happen and the bbc will be even more disappointed than usual is my bet. I am sorry to tell you but the loss of two backstabbers is hardly a great loss to Johnson.

AmaryIlis · 05/07/2022 18:47

Provenceinthesummer · 05/07/2022 18:44

Sunak and Sajid will be replaced by the morning. I’m sure Sunak was planning this all along, no surprise to anyone,

Who by? Surely Johnson is running out of blindly loyal people with reasonable competence to take over these posts? It would hardly be a good look to bring Hancock back.

Chocoqueen · 05/07/2022 18:45

Themidnightcat · 05/07/2022 18:38

Please can someone explain what this means in a TLDR - is it possible the tories won't be in government anymore or do we not know?

The tories will remain in government unless they're removed at a general election.

If Boris resigns, then he'll remain in post until the tories chose their new leader and he/she - a leader of the largest party in Parliament- will become PM. They could ask Parliament to vote for an election but they're not obliged to do so.

SarahShorty · 05/07/2022 18:45

Runnerbeansflower · 05/07/2022 18:44

Please educate me. I am willing to listen. I may not agree, but then it is my responsibility to come up with a rational argument to counter your rational argument. Be the better person.

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Would rather not. I'm in the wrong part of Mumsnet. Sorry. Have a nice evening.

custardbear · 05/07/2022 18:44

They're both rich - no
Money worries or 'need of a job' so I'd guess it's tactical that they'd do better stepping away from frankly fucking outrageous behaviours if the government and they'll
Land on their feet ... when if they don't they can still feed
Their family,
Unlike the rest of the nation 🤬

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