Boris' conference talk

Mark Twain said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience".

Posters, take note.

Although, they clearly have more important priorities than ensuring the country is running effectively:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/01/boris-johnson-rigging-the-system-power-courts-protest-elections?fbclid=IwAR3H7PBGKmBxefcs2EAuQBbb_4zsIAQEY_XxD7wKY5JRFQM9cHpkNSaA8eA

....our Gvnmt including Boris are reactive not proactive. It’s their hallmark.

But you consider that’s good enough.

The cost of wholesale energy procurement and network costs are two of the biggest factors in influencing the cost of energy. Fortunately, these have remained stable in Europe over the past decade.

The biggest reason for the variation between countries, however, is taxes and levies imposed by their governments. These have climbed to form a greater and greater proportion of energy costs over the past decade. In 2010, taxation accounted for an average of 25.6% of the cost of energy. By 2020, this figure had climbed to 36.6% in 2019. Some EU countries have even higher rates. Denmark for instance has tax rates of 63.7% while Germany’s rates currently stand at 52.3%. Malta pays the lowest tax premium at just 7%, while Ireland also benefits from a lower tax rate at 16.3%.
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The point being - EU member states are sovereign (who would have thought it) and run their economies as they see fit, and according to their access to different types of energy production, and use (within the agreed EU framework)

The main difference would be how the government in each country proactively engages with the problem www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/government-ed-miliband-kwasi-kwarteng-secretary-of-state-bbc-radio-b959609.html

The rise in energy is a world wide phenomenon. It has nothing to do with the EU energy cartel. Continental Europe are suffering high increases as well. Some rises are much higher than here in the UK.
And yes, I do think the Government including Boris are doing a good job given the circumstances.

It is a norm in polling that people tend to think of Labour as high tax, Tory as low tax.

Yes tumbleweed exactly sums it up! Zahawi looked a bit worried I thought.

Currently the headline polls are looking OK still for the government, but it sometimes doesn't take long for there to be a change. There is some interesting issue-by-issue polling which might be of concern to the strategists in the Tory party e.g. apparently voters now think it more likely the Tories will raise taxes in the next government than Labour.

When Fiona Bruce asked the Brexit voting Conservative stronghold of Aldershot if anyone thought Boris Johnson's speech was just what the party conference needed there was tumbleweed.

The woman who said we needed action not jokes was spot on.

I was catching up on last night's Question Time and I noted that no one in the audience felt it was a good speech, no one would raise their hand to that despite there being a majority of Tory voters in the audience.

Joker, showman, liar - all these things were said.

@MrsSkylerWhite

36.18%.
Haven't RTFT - what was the question? The percentage of people who voted for this SOS? 36.18% seems excessive to me.

As I understand it, 67% of eligible voters cast their ballot and 54% of those voted conservative.

Over to the mathematicians (which is not me )

(and I wasn’t one of them!)

I'd like to know who 'the people' are, so I can give them a piece of my mind :)

And but Jeremy Corbyn.

I'll be watching Gina Miller's application to launch a new political party - True & Fair.

I can't get any petrol.

My children's schooling is being disrupted for the third consecutive academic year.

I don't find new three words bullshit slogans and crap jokes at all endearing.

I want competent government, cheers.

Not long ago dear Boris was telling the world at the UN that we all had to grow up and take climate change seriously. Could someone who was bored enough to listen to his waffle summarise the policies in his speech on this subject.

@yellowspanner

The rise in energy prices is hardly their fault.

The rise is a direct result of no longer being part of the EU's cartel on energy costs.

So yes, very much their responsibility.

Yes the messy hair-ruffled as he waits for the cameras, according to journalists -is incredibly patronising. Why can't people see he thinks they are stupid?

Unfortunately I agree the current leader of the LP won't cut it to knock him over. He has insufficient charisma, for a start.

She is a fishwife and will NEVER get into power.

If we're going to resort to such clichés may I say that you sound like a hysterical shrew?

I think the Government and Boris are doing a good job given the circumstances.

No you don't.

Yellow, yes I tend to agree. The financial support was good for a lot of people to such an extent that some didnt want it to finish! Brexit was already agreed whether you voted for it or not. There was a clear message from the Tories during the last election and Labour were a mess. Many many ideas which just didnt make sense. A terrible terrible leader who seemed lost in his own little world and a dangers Shadow Chancellor who was going to wildly swing the UK to the Left.

The UK will never be massively left. Blair did a fantastic job of winning three elections yet Labour really dont seem to want to win. Maybe they just want to throw grenades from the sidelines. Captain Hindsight who looks like he is about to be sick, Rayner who is a disgrace to her party. Mentioning one school and calling people scum. She is a fishwife and will NEVER get into power.

And how many times does she need to say she was a single mum at 15/16. Every. Single. Time. Great decision making and surely she isnt saying follow my lead and see what you can do...

Thankfully the Labour Party is too disunited to form a government within the next decade. We do, however need a good opposition and they can't even provide that.
I think the Government and Boris are doing a good job given the circumstances.
The rise in energy prices is hardly their fault. They have provided massive financial support to businesses and workers throughout the pandemic.
And Brexit needed to be done. The referendum was a legal vote and there was a majority for Brexit.