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Boris Johnson never called to account for his constant lies

45 replies

dadshere · 09/07/2021 13:53

Interesting video calling BJ out on some of his lies:
twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/1410709231209271297?s=20

Yet, he is still massively popular? I cannot fathom how anyone with either an IQ above 50 or a conscience could not detest this PoS.

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malteasergeezer · 09/07/2021 16:01

@Worldgonecrazy

The fact that labour are unable to mount an opposition to one of the worst governments we have ever inflicted upon ourselves, shows how poor the state of politics is.

But short of revolution (and we all know how those turn out!) what are the options?

Decent politicians with integrity are rarer than unicorn shit.

I agree, there seems to be no gutsy opposition at all. It is inexplicable.
HmmmmmmInteresting · 09/07/2021 15:58

Yeah, I don't think anyone goes into politics wanting to make the world a better place...or if they do they don't stand a chance or soon change. It's all about the power.

Kazzyhoward · 09/07/2021 15:18

@FinallyHere

if there was a violent uprising and the houses of Parliament were razed to the ground I'd see it as progress.

The only thing that stops me wanting to help with the razing to the ground of the current politicians, is that history demonstrated over and over again that ever replaces them will be (or is) equally corrupt or the same people turn up again at the top.

I used to have no patience with my great aunt who would say 'it's a fallen world' but now I completely agree.

What is to be done, I have no idea.

I agree. There's something about "democracy" that attracts the wrong type of person, whether it's national, regional or local government.

There's nepotism, fraud and incompetence at all levels, from all parties (and independents), right down to Parish council level. At least at the local level, they can't do "that much" harm, other than cream off money for themselves and their cronies.

I've no idea what the answer is. For a start, I think we need regulatory bodies with more power/teeth to investigate and prosecute (but we have to ensure they're not managed by the cronies!). If there was more chance of the wrongdoers being caught and fined/imprisoned, things may improve over a decade or two!

chickenyhead · 09/07/2021 15:16

Never seen an honest politician. Is this a thing?

HmmmmmmInteresting · 09/07/2021 15:14

I used to have no patience with my great aunt who would say 'it's a fallen world' but now I completely agree.

Same here. It means we're getting old. Oh heck 🤣

FinallyHere · 09/07/2021 15:02

if there was a violent uprising and the houses of Parliament were razed to the ground I'd see it as progress.

The only thing that stops me wanting to help with the razing to the ground of the current politicians, is that history demonstrated over and over again that ever replaces them will be (or is) equally corrupt or the same people turn up again at the top.

I used to have no patience with my great aunt who would say 'it's a fallen world' but now I completely agree.

What is to be done, I have no idea.

Kazzyhoward · 09/07/2021 14:27

@malteasergeezer

There is so much corruption and nepotism / cronyism in this government that frankly if there was a violent uprising and the houses of Parliament were razed to the ground I'd see it as progress.
There's been corruption and nepotism/cronyism in every government for decades.
Worldgonecrazy · 09/07/2021 14:25

The fact that labour are unable to mount an opposition to one of the worst governments we have ever inflicted upon ourselves, shows how poor the state of politics is.

But short of revolution (and we all know how those turn out!) what are the options?

Decent politicians with integrity are rarer than unicorn shit.

HmmmmmmInteresting · 09/07/2021 14:22

They are (IMO) disadvantaged because for some reason they have chosen to go with the man who says Brexit is good (even though he didn't really want it - he only chose the anti -EU angle because it would trigger his trajectory towards PMship. Up until a couple of days before his announcement he'd been fervently pro-EU. How funny is that?). People also like the fact that he is racist and makes nasty comments about Muslims and women. They liked that in Trump as well. It legitimises our own bias and spite.

I am dreading England winning the Euros because the Xenophobia and jingoism is going to be off the charts

HmmmmmmInteresting · 09/07/2021 14:20

@malteasergeezer

There is so much corruption and nepotism / cronyism in this government that frankly if there was a violent uprising and the houses of Parliament were razed to the ground I'd see it as progress.
Grin
malteasergeezer · 09/07/2021 14:17

There is so much corruption and nepotism / cronyism in this government that frankly if there was a violent uprising and the houses of Parliament were razed to the ground I'd see it as progress.

malteasergeezer · 09/07/2021 14:15

@3luckystars

Boris and a lot of the previous prime ministers went to Eton where they all studied Rhetoric. I’m not an academic or an expert in this, I only know that because we learned it on a course I did last year. I’m just saying that if they and all their equals are learning how to do this in school then the rest of the country are at a disadvantage.

Politicians have to spin and rewrite things all the time to keep their jobs.

Most people study rhetoric and persuasive language in some form or other at school. It is not the preserve of Etonians.

People are not disadvantaged because they cannot see through the lies - they see through the deception perfectly well.

They are (IMO) disadvantaged because for some reason they have chosen to go with the man who says Brexit is good (even though he didn't really want it - he only chose the anti -EU angle because it would trigger his trajectory towards PMship. Up until a couple of days before his announcement he'd been fervently pro-EU. How funny is that?).

People also like the fact that he is racist and makes nasty comments about Muslims and women. They liked that in Trump as well. It legitimises our own bias and spite.

HmmmmmmInteresting · 09/07/2021 14:14

@3luckystars

Boris and a lot of the previous prime ministers went to Eton where they all studied Rhetoric. I’m not an academic or an expert in this, I only know that because we learned it on a course I did last year. I’m just saying that if they and all their equals are learning how to do this in school then the rest of the country are at a disadvantage.

Politicians have to spin and rewrite things all the time to keep their jobs.

Yes, it's because they are the elite and the rules don't apply to them. Really depressing.
Kazzyhoward · 09/07/2021 14:06

Rishi Sunak is just as bad, if not worse, and because he threw loads of money at some people, he's even more popular than Boris. (Though it worked for Gordon Brown, so Sunak is probably just copying him!).

3luckystars · 09/07/2021 14:02

Boris and a lot of the previous prime ministers went to Eton where they all studied Rhetoric. I’m not an academic or an expert in this, I only know that because we learned it on a course I did last year. I’m just saying that if they and all their equals are learning how to do this in school then the rest of the country are at a disadvantage.

Politicians have to spin and rewrite things all the time to keep their jobs.

MissyB1 · 09/07/2021 13:59

Lying, cheating, breaking parliamentary rules, the list is endless but he's untouchable.

Either that or the more scary alternative is that most of the public couldn't give a shit what he does, if he sacrificed a child in broad daylight, his supporters would say
"yeah but he got Brexit done didn't he?"

SirSamuelVimes · 09/07/2021 13:58

It's not just Johnson. We've become accustomed to politicians lying. They all do it all the time, so it doesn't really register anymore. There are no consequences.

It's a post truth world.

Arrowheart · 09/07/2021 13:58

He has made lying a non issue when it is huge. It is as if he has made lying acceptable. He has made a mug of us all. Watching him is like watching the Emperors new clothes and some one soon needs to shout out from the crowd and tell him he is naked.

HmmmmmmInteresting · 09/07/2021 13:55

I won't watch the video because it will make my blood boil. He lies as easily as he breathes. Didn't DC say he re-writes history in his head and actually believes what he is saying

HmmmmmmInteresting · 09/07/2021 13:54

It's infuriating. It's like a mass sickness.