The Westminster Arms

Autumn, RLB has complained about private health care.

So the non- EU staff I meet regularly are all earning over £30k?

Maybe there’s there a self employed loophole here that I’m missing.

I am going to finish my shift with some actual work 😂 so I might not see you all till tomorrow, which will be a lovely morning 😀

So the £30k is already in place?

Only for non-EU migrants, Autumn. That was a legacy from TM's days in the Home Office but it's unworkable from an NHS point of view so the Migration Advisory Council is proposing it be reset at £25,600 and applied to both EU and non-EU migrants.

Until 11pm tomorrow, EU migrants retain FoM.

Lily not till about 9pm. So the £30k is already in place? I presume it can’t be as yet?

Copper I see them as separate issues. Or has RLB said “no one should use private dentists” which would be different?

the minimum earnings level for non-EU workers

It's still being discussed, Autumn, although there are proposals to reduce it from Theresa's £30k minimum because...health workers.

Sorry I misunderstood before and hope you have your feet up after another tough day.

Autumn, I completely agree with you about private dentistry.
But I think it is then the height of hypocrisy to the complain about the NHS being privatised

I'm going to ask a question that will probably get me panned by the haters, but oh well...

the minimum earnings level for non-EU workers - is that actually meant to be in place at the present time, or was it just something that got talked about? Thanks.

I was 21 in 1997 and voted for Blair.

Look how well that worked out!!

I was also in the 1997 bubble and to my shame on I also voted for Blair.

I've always seen boris a rumblings forward as the blonde bubbly toddler breaking free of the grey monotony behind him running to splash in the puddle 😂💦.

I'm an optimist dh the remainer is definitely more cautious and pessimistic.

I also think whatever most people think of the eu... They also don't think the UK is generally a bad country. Lots of people have pride in the UK.

Something corybn didn't seem to share.

Copper I doubt the NHS would pay for an adult to have their teeth straightened? if it's a case of paying the same amount to NHS or private I can see why you'd go private - especially if you see it as saving the NHS some space for a patient with a non-cosmetic dental need.

Just read that RLB has paid a lot of money to have front teeth straightened at a private clinic.
NHS not good enough.

But like Sami shackrabati (Sp?) sending her son to Dulwich College (where Nigel Farage went) and Diane Abbot sending her son to the City ofLondon College, it the hypocrisy that annoys me.

I must eat my earlier words about none of the potential labour leaders saying anything about our future out of the EU.

Now Labour must end the leave-remain divide. Another future is possible
Static Starmer writing in the Guardian...

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/30/labour-leave-remain-divide-brexit

I've just seen Farage last speech and it's nothing less than a we can expect from the him.
The lady in the chair, I cringed watching her. Like a head mistress and not the way to finish up the end of the road for the UK.

Telling me them to put flags away on our last ever sitting in the parliament smacked of petty bitterness.

She should have thanked Farage for his speech, Riley said they would miss his speeches... With a wink.. Thanked the UK for their deep pockets and numerous other contributions over the years... And look forward to going forwards in friendship.

Lily Oh I don't think Rejoin will be behaving like that this weekend, but the people still in the early stages of grief.

If you mean rejoin, Autumn, the campaign starts this weekend. Chester For Europe is organising a rally.

hospitality I'm much more likely to have a drink in the working week than at the weekend!

I wonder how long it will be before others want to exit. Presumably that will be more of a mid 2021 thing.

That's my recollection too, Hospitality.

Allowing EU citizens to vote in a GE here would have been contrary to the practice in other EU countries, like France. For Jezza, though, it was battle stations.

Autumn are you starting the weekend early?

I think the problem lies with the fact that a lot of EU citizens who live here still feel cheated because they could not vote

Jezza's amendment would have cleared that up Copper, not to mention 16 year olds being given the vote. Wasn't that Lyndsay Hoyle's refusal to pass the amendment, bless his cotton socks? I seem to recall Berk-ow wasn't in the house on that occasion. Aplogies if I'm mis-remembering here. Can't seem to find it online.

It's one of the marvels of the digital age, Hospitality. Everything now is photographed, documented and archived. Everyone has the capacity to be a roving reporter. There is no hiding place any more for inconsistencies.

I did manage to get mojito syrup - the non alcholic kind.

chuck it in with some sparkling water and booze of choice - sorted.

Yes, I probably am drinking a strange concoction when I get home! LOL.

Re our Becky and indeed anyone putting themselves out there on a public platform - when will they ever learn that every word they utter will be analysed? Speaking in metaphors won't wash with the media.

Walking "After tomorrow I hope we can all start to move on and be, "let's move to the next stage" -ers"

I reckon Friday & Saturday night will feature

an EU coffin being dragged through London

lots of rich folk saying "all Brexiteers should die a horrible death but I PLAN TO CARE ABOUT PEOPLE".

I want to be wrong but that's what I anticipate.

Let's have a rousing round of...

I think the problem lies with the fact that a lot of EU citizens who live here still feel cheated because they could not vote. Fair enough, but no country allows citizens of another country to vote except for the long established arrangements with the Commonwealth and ROI.
And some UK citizens with EU partners feel worried about the future.
But Boris has been clear. They are welcome here as valued members of society.
I think once it starts to take shape more people will become acceptors.
I hope so anyway.

The sun's over the yardarm, Copper, and the Landlady is somewhere in the cellar so I'll pour you a drink 🍷 plus a triple 🍸🍸🍸for Autumn and whatever anyone else is having.

Mine's a builders brew.