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DustyDiamond · 21/01/2020 15:07

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Welcome to The Westminster Arms!

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A non-partisan politics pub thread for political chit chat....!!

Please stick within MN talk guidelines - any posts which you think may have crossed the line, please report rather than getting into scraps on thread 😠

Political punch-ups are soooo last decade - ain't nobody got time for that 🥊❌

Be nice! Be respectful!

S'ok to slag off politicians, but not other posters 🍻

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DustyDiamond · 31/01/2020 11:47

Dom is sitting pretty at joint first with Nige & BJ - delivering Brexit & a stonking Tory majority

#Winning 🙌🎉

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SingingLily · 31/01/2020 11:45

Smile Teetotal, me, that's why I'm always the designated driver.

Speaking of which, best keep off the roads tonight if you value your life. I'm a terrible driver and I absolutely hate driving in the dark. Grin

EpicIndividual · 31/01/2020 11:44

Don’t get too drunk Lily! You don’t want to peak too soon, before tonight’s big outing! 🙌🍸 😉

SingingLily · 31/01/2020 11:42

Never too early, Epic, not on a day like today.

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EpicIndividual · 31/01/2020 11:41

#ClassicDmitri anyone? I know it’s early... 😉 🍸

Miljea · 31/01/2020 11:40

"No more unelected, over paid, anti democratic overlords. Hooray! 🙌🙌🙌🥂"

🤔 Where does Dominic Cummings sit in all that?!

EpicIndividual · 31/01/2020 11:39

Flowers for Notangelina xxx

Miljea · 31/01/2020 11:37

I wish Scotland all the best. The Remain vote was was pretty decisive.

I wasn't a fan of IndyRef one, but events have changed my mind.

SingingLily · 31/01/2020 11:07

Well, as the purpose of this thread is to engage in non-partisan political chit chat, no day would be complete without a mention of Nicola Sturgeon.

This morning, she unveils new plans for IndyRef2. Again.

She will be cheered by the news that the latest YouGov poll shows support for independence at 51%. The sample size is small however - 1039 respondents - and the change is attributed to Remainers.

Just one slight problem...the same poll shows that the majority think that leaving the UK would damage Scotland’s economy (60% of trade is with rUK). This might explain why it also shows that 56% oppose having an IndyRef2 this year or next, with just 34% in favour.

An interesting analysis from Tom Harris on Nicola’s repeated demands for yet another “once in a lifetime referendum”:

“...campaigning for independence is a central part of her job and if Sturgeon didn’t regularly demand a referendum, she would be replaced as leader of the SNP. The justification for demanding a rerun plebiscite is less important than the imperative of demanding one.

But the timing is just as – perhaps even more – crucial. With Brexit will come a swathe of new powers for the Scottish Parliament in areas that are already devolved: fishing, agriculture and the environment, for example – powers that have, until now, been wielded by Brussels. SNP strategy has so far been to deny that Scotland will derive any benefit at all from our departure from the European Union; when the prospect of Westminster temporarily holding on to some repatriated powers until a UK-wide regulation regime could be devised, nationalists started using the term “power grab” in order to give the impression that Scotland was being betrayed by the evil Brexit-loving Tories.

But new powers are heading in Holyrood’s direction anyway – a lot of new powers and responsibilities. Scottish ministers also fear that Boris Johnson will keep his promise to fishing communities and negotiate an end to Britain’s participation in the hated Common Fisheries Policy (CFP) by the end of this year. This would indeed be a cause for panic: how could the SNP demand independence and joining the EU when it would mean taking the Scottish fishing industry back into the CFP? In any future independence referendum, how would SNP ministers explain their preference for fishing and agriculture to be run from Brussels rather than from Edinburgh?

All of this means that the longer a second referendum is delayed, the more uphill will be the task of persuading Scots that they’re better off with Europe than with the rest of the UK.”

So Boris might be right to apply a judicious touch of dither and delay.

bellinisurge · 31/01/2020 11:04

@SilverySurfer , there's been some genuinely horrible horribleness all over MN . On both sides. Let's not go too far into that.

SingingLily · 31/01/2020 11:03

Welcome back, Epic.

Notangelina, that's a lovely thing to do for your mum. 💐

DustyDiamond · 31/01/2020 10:42

Angelina 💐

Epic 🙌🍷

Lily - have fun! 🎉🥳

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HateIsNotGood · 31/01/2020 10:40

Morning All - many thanks for the delicious barm breakfast - just popping in to say hi everybody and many thanks for the continuous wit and humour you've all given the past year (and more).

Hopefully, I'll be up later, but can't be sure, so for now - really, really enjoy this day in whatever way makes you happy.

SilverySurfer · 31/01/2020 10:40

Currently having fun on the supposed Brexit celebration thread in AIBU. One remainer charmingly said she wanted to spit at us lol - such class. I reported so it has gone now but the whiners are wading in and taking over the thread. Such a pity we can't have a single thread on here without it being invaded.

AutumnRose1 · 31/01/2020 10:31

jolie hope you're okay. My father was a Remainer but he also believed that politicians are gonna...politic!

Epic so nice to see you. MWAH.

Coppersulphate · 31/01/2020 10:31

Back from mammogram. Much easier than earlier one. It's just routine so not expecting any problems.
The NHS is so good and I certainly take it for granted.

Singing do enjoy your dinner tonight and send them good wishes from the Westminster Arms. Invite them over for breakfast.
And, of course post updates to tell us all about it.

I am supposed to be writing a presentation but I am too excited. So, I will curl up in the snug, with breakfast and a large, weak tea.
I am looking forward to Boris' speech tonight. Bubbly in the fridge.

EpicIndividual · 31/01/2020 10:17

Correction on the ‘unelected Overlords’... of course they still have us in their tenuous grip until the end of transition, but symbolically as of tonight? 17 million F**k offs. (Personally mine is reserved for Guy Verhofstad 😂)

time4chocolate · 31/01/2020 10:14

FlowersFlowers notangelinajolie

EpicIndividual · 31/01/2020 10:14

Morning All!

Happy Brexit Day!!!!

I can’t believe we finally got here, after everything!

I’m not out partying, as I’m happy enough that it’s just happening at all now tbh, but cheers 🥂 to all who are! No more unelected, over paid, anti democratic overlords. Hooray! 🙌🙌🙌🥂

Also, I don’t care about any potential pop up goaders. Just step over them, there’s always one or two angry drunks at a party. Let others cry into their sherry on another thread, because that’s ok too. But Just imagine the nasty ones that appear here, like Steve Bray, but with his megaphone unknowingly switched off. 😂

Lovely breakfast Lily, intrigued by the spicy ketchup! Hope you have a marvelous shindig tonight! We look forward to your sneaky update!

notangelinajolie · 31/01/2020 10:04

Happy Brexit Day one and all 🇬🇧

It's a bittersweet day for me because I lost my Mum on this date 2 years ago. She would have been 87 and was a staunch remainer. She was child during WW2 and witnessed war with our close European neighbours - she said she never wanted to see that again and was bloody terrified that history would repeat itself if we left the EU. I'm off to buy her some flowers in a wee while and tell her it's all going to be ok. Which I'm positive it will be Smile

I be back later to raise a glass Wine

hospitalityinspector · 31/01/2020 09:42

Did someone mention Bucks fizz?
Lovely breakfast and Friday round-up Lily

Well, here we are. Democracy prevailed. I'll drink to that. Wine

Have a great day everyone. Smile

SilverySurfer · 31/01/2020 09:35

Sounds like a deal Lily Grin This flag is better than last one.

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Saucery · 31/01/2020 09:33

I thought Steve Baker on the Today programme struck just the right note about feelings today. Very measured and sensible words.

SingingLily · 31/01/2020 09:30

except I'm tone deaf.

In that case, Silvery, you qualify for the choir Autumn and I are starting. I could clear a room in ten seconds flat myself just by singing to them so I reckon the three of us could make a fortune in the crowd control business Grin

SilverySurfer · 31/01/2020 09:23

Happy Exit Day everyone. I can hardly believe it's happening at long last. I would break out in a celebratory song except I'm tone deaf.

Dusty, thank you for the thread and all your brilliant montages - you're a genius. Sorry you can't open the champagne until you get home later, mine will be opened somewhat earlier Grin

Lily, thank you too for all the yummy breakfasts, you must be exhausted and hope you have a brilliant time tonight at your posh event. I hope you can find time to slip to the ladies at some point to tell us all about it.

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