Best friend turned nasty & aggressive

I dont think she should of been so mean.
But tbh if I found out my best friend had voted for a man who thinks me and my family are scum and were happy for us to starve I would think she thought the same too and it would ruin our friendship.

that they have enabled fascism

The Conservatives have just won an 80 seat majority, including constituencies that had voted Labour for a hundred years Your political and historical illiteracy is tiresome. Another Godwin fail. The rabid, authoritarian left wing on this thread is an ugly sight. Labour will languish in the wilderness for years unless it deals with the intolerant poison in its ranks

I'd have lost all respect for you too.
But I probably would have taken myself out for some air or walked away from you.

I'd like to think I could have held it together to walk away...but then I don't actually know if I could have to be honest.

I'm beginning to think that all the Tory voters whining about the 'nastiness' of Labour voters are not just projecting, but engaging in magical thinking - if they make enough noise, they can drown out that little internal voice that keeps inconveniently reminding them that they have enabled fascism, and that being compliant with fascism will not protect them from it in the long run.

God bless you, OP. You did the right thing.

The Left can have their monopoly on angry, loudmouthed sanctimoniousness. Those of us who vote Conservative can have the satisfaction of knowing that we are keeping the country on its feet.

My closest friend has recently begun spouting pro-Corbyn nonsense. I metaphorically roll my eyes and ignore it all, putting it down to a mid-life crisis.

Spot on, SGB. I won't ever show 'respect' for this government or 'move on' from their destructive policies.

@tallulahwullah No, people don't need to show 'respect' to those whose views they think are obnoxious and unethical. And people are certainly not going to 'move on'. People can't, because they need to figure out ways to protect themselves and their friends from the government - and ways to obstruct it in the future.

Op you do know that the IFS has an agenda, don't you? www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2019/11/23/the-institute-for-fiscal-studies-is-a-reactionary-force-in-economics/

There was no need for your friend to be rude but to be honest on Friday if I had found that a good friend of mine had voted tory I would have been very angry too.

Not because I trust his honesty, but his self-interest - which we Tories know is a much more powerful force.

Well I certainly hope you're right!

(you've managed to get me rallying for self interest somehow. You Tories are a corrupting influence . Here's to self-interest

Sore loser throwing her toys out of her
Pram! Not really a friend at least you've seen her for what she is.
People in Britain should be grateful we live in a democracy rather than a dictatorship.
Really some people need to MOVE ON & show some respect & manners!
Tories are the majority lots of people feel the same so she has to accept that!

I've known people who fell out over football, over a hen do, over dinner in a restaurant, so why not politics?

I wonder if she is demanding everyone she knows tells her how they voted?

I totally get that some people can't square being friends with someone who votes differently. However, if she doesn't know how a person has voted, does she just assume that they think like she does? Presumably, until it came up, she assumed you voted the same way she did?

It sounds like a huge overreaction. I have got to the stage where the only person that knows how I vote is DH. I just refuse to discuss it anymore.

Still, thanks for joining MN just to share that with us, OP.

I've watched friends from childhood (now in their 60s) fall out terminally over Brexit. Now it seems more people are prepared to lose friends over this election.

It's really hard to see the polarisation of this country. And while it might be Labour voters angry at the moment, there's been plenty of anger evident from the right wing in recent times.
This thread itself shows how difficult it's going to be to i reunite this country.

And the divisions aren't magically going to go away because the Tories have a majority of seats. It won't change the fact that round about half the country still hates them and still doesn't want to leave the EU. Which is what makes right-wingers' obsession with The People so unnerving. You're not The People, you're about half the population, and the half who disagree with you are still people.

The Tories just won a higher share of the vote than Blair did in 1997. Did you go around making this same argument about the majority who didn’t want Labour then? I suspect not.

Your friend is not being kind ... but I do admit that I can’t spend much time with people who I know voted Tory at the moment. The current Tories epitomise everything I detest and they’re going to push through the hardest of all Brexits - which distresses me greatly for many personal reasons. I’m avoiding known Tories until I have calmed down somewhat.

And the divisions aren't magically going to go away because the Tories have a majority of seats. It won't change the fact that round about half the country still hates them and still doesn't want to leave the EU. Which is what makes right-wingers' obsession with The People so unnerving. You're not The People, you're about half the population, and the half who disagree with you are still people.

Of course we have private insurance. But since it’s in Boris’ interest to neutralise Labour attacks and keep his new seats by funding the NHS, that’s exactly what I think he will do.

Not because I trust his honesty, but his self-interest - which we Tories know is a much more powerful force.

If you said you were 'glad' the Tories won, to someone who perhaps has more reason than you to be afraid of Johnson and his crew (maybe she or someone close to her is poor, chronically ill, not white or not a British citizen, for instance, or works in education or the NHS) it's not that surprising she was angry and upset.

my children will have much better lives than they would have had under him! Compared to that, Boris’ peccadilloes are literally irrelevant to me.

I appreciate your honesty. Tin hat mentality. Goes some way to explaining the shit show we're in for at least I guess.

Last question: If the NHS gets put on the table, or increasingly under funded (and you voted for a man known to go back on his pledges so there's no guarantee it won't in some form or other) you have complete comprehensive private insurance for your children should they or you as their provider get ill right?

Well I guess it beats paying a bit more tax.

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Since Corbyn won’t be able to tax the living shite out of me and crash the economy, my children will have much better lives than they would have had under him! Compared to that, Boris’ peccadilloes are literally irrelevant to me.

You're right there, I will. Not Labour necessarily, but anyone decent.

Because people keep voting for indecent politicians for reasons I will never understand.

Question: Do think about the precedent you set for your children's future politicians and future government when you knowingly vote for someone who is so immoral?

You just told Boris and Co that you can be a liar and a cheat and squander public funds on your friends with no accountability. Future candidates take note.

I guess you'll be one those people who starts bleating on about how your children deserve a better, safer world as well.

We get the politicians we deserve.

Next time say, 'Do you want a Trump? Because this is how you get a Trump'.
She sounds awful, OP.

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If that’s your attitude, then you’ll be out of power for a very long time.

Some of the comments on this thread are quite incredible. The totalitarian, self righteous left wing and their inability to handle people who dare to have a different political opinion. After being decimated in the North, where constituencies that had voted Labour for a hundred years turned Conservative, one would have thought Labour voters would be in reflective mood. But this thread is radioactive with intolerance. OP, she isn’t a friend. She’s a bigoted ideologue.