Scotland's new income tax!

Well, the SNP do want Scotland to be run 'differently' from Tory run Westminster. I don't see the problem with
Yes differently like a nanny state- raise booze prices to discourage drinking, no drink at all if driving, named person as we can’t be trusted with our own DCs, lots of immigration cas we aren’t up to the jobs available - thanks SNP - am so proud to be a useless drink sozzled native.

mummy the BBC explain the budge quite well here www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-42358522

What cdtaylor is referring to is

"Because the higher-rate threshold is rising by the rate of inflation, people earning £50,000 in Scotland will actually be £85 better off in 2018-19 than they were the previous year - the rising threshold means less of their income is being taxed at the higher rate.
However, because Chancellor Philip Hammond rose those thresholds even further in the rest of the UK, someone earning the same amount outwith Scotland would be £655 better off."

Theres also a good chart with a breakdown at the bottom of the page I linked

Nyx that may be what they are trying to do but they are failing miserably.

Look how the income tax changes work out

Well, the SNP do want Scotland to be run 'differently' from Tory run Westminster. I don't see the problem with that. Unless you're doing a Lord George Foulkes of course, cdtaylor: "What they are doing is trying to build up a situation in Scotland where the services are manifestly better than south of the border in a number of areas.” Interviewer Colin Mackay:”Is that a bad thing?” Lord George Foulkes: “No, but they are doing it deliberately."

Not sure what you mean about SNP policies that are all about 'creating grievance' though.

I'm happy with the income tax proposals, I think they are doing better than even the tories thought they would with the 'poison' income tax powers they were allowed.

The SNP policies are all about creating difference and grievance. Vanity projects like Gaelic signs benefiting the 0% of the population who speak only Gaelic.

Doctors don’t want to come outside the cities as schools are poor imv.

It's a way of taxing hard working middle income families more

I hate this hard working bollocks, we ALL work hard

I'm not thrilled to be paying more tax, but it isn't the end of the world. I am more annoyed by the mess made of FE and police services and the stealth privatisation of local authorities by endless outsourcing.

That depends whether you are for the community as a whole or for yourself.

Difference between financial policies of Tory/Labour and those of SNP.

What is Scotland short of Doctors, Teachers and competent politicians.

Given the choice of a doctors job in a hospital do you pick Scotland and be about £1000 a year worse off or England.

If you are an incoming investor do you pick Scotland, high business rates, senior staff taxed more, higher costs for buying/selling houses or England.

derekbateman.scot/2017/12/15/shooting-foxes/

But they are just putting it up, mid earners already pay more.
And is it for things everyone uses??

Of the 2.5 million taxpayers in Scotland, over 70% earn less than £33,000. It's all relative.

'Middle income' taxpayers won't pay more.

Also the SNP manifesto did say higher earners would pay more.

(The more one earns, the more one can and should pay for the good of society. In my opinion.)

Tax is not some sort of punishment It is what we all contribute to pay for the things we all use - people who earn more pay more - really cannot see what is so unfair

It's a way of taxing hard working middle income families more. The fact they earn more means they pay more tax anyway and are already contributing. Just another slap in the face and backtrack from the clueless SNP.does nothing to stop the tax avoidance of the truly wealthy or by corporates.

It’s a big gesture to try to win over the SNP’s supporters who are starting to turn to labour, and as per usual, is to the detriment of those in the middle who are neither low nor high earners

TBF I think they have done pretty well considering the cuts from WM they are trying to absorb

2016 SNP Manifesto - no income tax rises
2017 Green government led by SNP puppet - tax rises

Our council tax went up 50 quid a month last year. Supposedly they did that so they weren't going to do income but maybe I imagined that.

If it's spent wisely who can complain.

I live in England and if I woke up tomorrow to a 5% tax increase to spend on public services I honestly wouldn’t mind. 1% seems very reasonable.

Luna, yes I am trying to be positive about how the government will spend it.

My bugbear is folk telling me I can get free calpol for kids..

My reservation on hearing a summary of it was that Scotland economy needs more private enterprise, so the taxing to give automatic pay increases to the public sector is not going to help an already skewed economy / workforce.
But then my immediate family work in private sector.
My in-laws are in public sector so they'll perhaps see it differently!

We're paying more as a family but we gat the benefits of the free prescriptions and I'm getting a proper pay rise first time ever

Very complicated - Scotland has 5 income tax bands now compared with 3 in the rest of the UK.

Much is being made of the very poorest being better off. True - by a massive £20 a year which is going to make no difference to anyone.

I wouldn't mind paying more if I thought that it would be used wisely. Unfortunately given the state of the NHS, education and POlice in Scotland I have zero faith in the current administration to spend it wisely. Expect more baby boxes and translations of road signs into Gaelic.