Please can someone explain? Will we pay if we leave EU without a deal?

M4Dad

Yep WW1 massive contribution to the 'European project'.

Ffs

I agree queen

So much rudeness.

Gosh i am finding it very hard to decide who is the rudest on these types of threads

I thought M4 was...but bloody hell olivia is giving him a run for his money

I think the graphs have been good, makes it easier for someone as ignorant of these matters like myself to understand

This sort of thing is just like in the pub when you're having a good chat with your mates and some bloke you don't know pulls up a chair, sits himself down and proceeds to tell the ladies how it really is.

And I don't care if it sounds sexist I hate this in real life and I hate it here.

M4 dad than why did you bring WWI and WWII up? WWI was a result of jingoistic imperial pistes having a pudding contest and if led to WWII? The only people who are owed anything are the millio s of innocents caught up in them

Why? As a way of stating that we have contributed massively to the European project.

@M4dad

Here you go AGAIN. Speaking out of your arse with zero knowledge.

I worked in Greece as an economic adviser to the Troika ... And in Spain: same role.

1. the euro is an exercise in economic malfeasance. it assumes EU countries which have adopted it will work to improve their productivity at the same rate as Germans. Ain't gonna happen. In theory it's great though. It does force change as we have seen in Spain's labour market and in France. Italy is just a political disaster and labour market will not be changed. But that's ITALY'S CHOICE.

AND none of this renders the EU's single market and CU a bad thing. Completely different

2. Greece lied to get in then falsified its accounts. The country has been mismanaged for centuries.

So Brussels is to blame for that (for letting them in, yes)?

The UK paid zero to support Greece. Zero. As is right - the euro is a bad idea which the UK has not participated in.

3. Spain ... got massively greedy and built too many houses in stupid places. As did Ireland btw. Its cajas were run like municipal hedge funds - completely incompetent and corrupt. Again, I suppose Brussels / SM and CU are now a bad idea because of this.

M4 dad than why did you bring WWI and WWII up? WWI was a result of jingoistic imperial pistes having a pudding contest and if led to WWII? The only people who are owed anything are the millio s of innocents caught up in them.

This thread was really interesting until it got derailed by this bloke spamming the board about the war and telling women to stop swearing.

Can't we just ignore him?

M4

You are very good at asking others to explain. When posters ask you to clarify, elucidate or back up your statements you get very offended.

We all await your detailed response to points made by pp.

If Britain is looking for retrospect payment for contribution to WWI and WWII in Brexit

It's not.

If Britain is looking for retrospect payment for contribution to WWI and WWII in Brexit can Ireland have compensation for 700 years of oppression at the same time?

Nah, I’m good watching. I might stretch to giving m4dad the odd fist-bump though.

You have no clue how the EU works

Explain to me how I've got it wrong, come one, put your money where your mouth is. Allez.

Olivia,

You've been sold unicorns and are gonna get Armageddon .. you are blissfully unaware. Educate yourself and convince yourself we are not going to be completely destroyed by this tribalist experiment

The EU is already armageddon for places like Greece and it's coming to a town near you in Italy, Spain, Portugal, et al.

Why do you completely ignore these facts?

and it's EUROS not POUNDS. The EU functions in EUROS ...

You don't get much right do you?

@M4dad.

Someone said it earlier. You have no clue how the EU works. Educate yourself man.

M4dad

But you have zero facts. Much of what you state is wrong or at best incomplete.

Also, Zero indication that we are headed for anything but economic disaster with a No Deal scenario - the Nash Equilibrium for this game we are playing.

You've been sold unicorns and are gonna get Armageddon .. you are blissfully unaware. Educate yourself and convince yourself we are not going to be completely destroyed by this tribalist experiment.

Ha ha ha.

Thanks for this

Page 18: the EU has a NEGATIVE EUR 72 BILLION NET WORTH. DUH

Given the money it receives - £143 Billion pounds a year - why are you so dedicated to an organisation that is obviously poorly run and most of it's southerly countries are looking at poverty and mass youth unemployment?

well @Tamatoa : why not have a go? Show us your brilliance.

How much worse off are you going to be as a result of these Brexit taliban now running us over a cliff?

That's all you've got. Clearly uneducated old white male with armchair opinions. Like most Brexshitters / Bexidiots

I love this strategy you have of demeaning, weakly, people like me. It contributes to your continuing defeat in terms of the UK leaving the EU.

.....and I'm hardly old

@M4dad

You really are an uneducated twat. Have you ever seen BALANCE SHEET in your life?

Page 18: the EU has a NEGATIVE EUR 72 BILLION NET WORTH. DUH
Source: ec.europa.eu/budget/library/biblio/publications/2017/EU_Annual_Accounts_2016_en.pdf, page 20

And in respect of my GDP graph, it was GDP growth. In terms of size of economy we used to be larger than France. Now no longer because of the idiocy that is Brexit.

Uhhh, I was laughing AT you Olivia, not with you.
Proud brexiter here. But, good luck on the tatami mats

I do think it's strange M4 isn't contributing anything to our little derail

In what way? I have nothing more to add to the posts that have already been made.