Not sure how to vote. In my area the Cons are going to romp home.

Wild - It is really irrelevant what Damian Green is saying at the end of the day IT IS IN THE LABOUR MANIFESTO PAGE 86 UNDER COMMUNITIES. Rebecca Long-Bailey said in an interview "we have set out our initial tax rises in our Manifeso" they will need to do those and more.

Wild - you are being naive if you think that this policy won't be introduced. It will be. There is no way that the top 5% of earners can pay for all the things Labour wants to do. They will need to raise money by other means and this is one of them.

WildNightsWithAndyDay
Your local Labour candidate for the upcoming election only received 10% of the vote in the recent County Council elections last month - what knowledge or influence does she have over Labour policies? John McDonnell is Labour's Shadow Chancellor and a member of the Land Tax Campaign.

I would be very much hit by the land value tax and I'm planning to vote Labour. I have 20 acres of land plus a large garden in an area commutable to London. Land is currently managed by a local conservation charity and is in no way financially productive or anything.

I've never voted Labour before but planning to do so for the first time as Lib Dems have no chance here.

I genuinely do not believe that Labour would consider doing this - it would be completely nonsensical. However, due to the points clavinova raised I have contacted the local Labour candidate who has assured me that they have no plans whatsoever for a Land Value Tax.

She's tried to comment on the Tory candidates FB page about it and has been deleted and blocked. As has anyone who has tried to question him on anything, even people stating they will vote Tory. Honestly, if anyone has time go on Damian Green's FB page and ask him a question.

I doubt if the people who would be hit by Land Value Tax would vote Labour anyway!

It only gets a brief mention in the Labour Manifesto as something to be investigated and would replace council tax,which is no longer fit for purpose. Many people would be better off.

Surely if Labour are openly calling it nonsense and that they have no plans for it then that's the case?

Do you have the names of any Labour MPs calling it nonsense? The article in your link just refers to an anonymous spokesman.

It's mentioned in the Labour Manifesto, the Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer is a member of the Land Tax Campaign and he lists the Land Value Tax on his own web page - what more evidence do you need.

Sneaky aren't they?

Wild - see Clavinova's post. The Land Value Tax is in the Labour Manifesto it is part of their policy. They haven't decided yet what percentage to charge that will be done with consultation if they win the election.

But even that one Labour MP that mentions the possibility of a land value tax isn't specifically backing or putting his name to the Labour Land Campaign. The only vaguely political people that seem to be openly backing it are a Labour Councillor from Salford and someone who once ran for the Green Party.

Surely if Labour are openly calling it nonsense and that they have no plans for it then that's the case?

The Financial Times might be behind a paywall for you but you can read John Mcdonnell's web page here;

www.john-mcdonnell.net/about_john_mcdonnell

"John campaigns for a fair tax system in which wealthy individuals and big business pay their fair share, a clamp down on tax avoidance and evasion, a land value tax , a Tobin tax on speculators and the payment of a living wage."

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It's ALWAYS worth voting

WildNightsWithAndyDay

Happy to correct you regarding the Land Tax.

Page 86 of the Labour Manifesto under Local Communities;
" We will initiate a review into reforming council tax and business rates and consider new options such as a land value tax to ensure local government has sustainable funding for the long term."

The Financial Times in 2015 names John McDonnell, the Shadow Chancellor as a member of the Land Tax Campaign;
www.ft.com/content/585e5784-6b66-11e5-aca9-d87542bf8673

So that's where they're going to plant a Money Tree.

Vote for who you would like to be in power.

If you would normally vote labour but think JC is too left wing, use it as an opportunity to tell the party that you are not happy with the direction the party has taken by voting for another party whose politics you agree with. I'm usually a conservative voter, but I vote labour if I think the conservatives are becoming too right wing - I would never vote for JC and I don't like the current political climate where there is no credible alternative.

However, if you like the current labour leader and his policies, vote for them.

You are never wasting your vote.

I really don't get posts like this. THIS is the reason that safe seats exist! Get out and vote if you want things to change.

I'd check which is the best candidate.

You're right there is a Labour Land Campaign clavinova. There is also a statement from a Labour spokesman saying"This is desperate nonsense from the Tories. Labour has no such plans." www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/03/labours-garden-tax-hit-10million/

All references I can find to Labour Land Campaign are not affiliated directly with the Labour Party (happy to be corrected) and I can't see it mentioned in the manifesto either.

The Land Tax is definitely mentioned in the Labour manifesto as a consideration - there's even a Land Tax campaign group;
www.labourland.org/

Wild - the Land Value Tax is in the Labour manifesto page 86 I think. They are leaving it as an option and may replace Council Tax and business rates with this new tax.

Same here. I've looked at the opposing candidates. Where are they from, what do they say about local issues. The lib dem lives 300 miles away and even the local party don't seem to know much about him. The labour guy is a local person active in council politics as is the Green. So it's between them.

He's a wonderful man ahippo - he's still spouting on on his FB page about the cost of the Labour Land Tax. Anyone who comments that labour has specifically said several times they have no plans to do this is deleted and blocked within minutes.

wildnights I am shocked! I never knew there was a hustings (tbh I didn't even know what one was) but just seen a friend on Facebook share that DG did not show up. And that if you post on his Facebook page asking why he will delete and block you. He is actually blocking his constituents for wanting to hold him to account?? and yet he will still get a majority vote.
Makes me feel sick

I have just found out that we have an independent candidate who sounds like a good bloke. I am so pleased that I won't have to spoil my paper as I can't vote for any of the main parties this time.

If you want to vote (which you don't have to - it's your right, not your obligation) then you could go on a website - such as this one (www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com or whatever google brings up) and answer the questions about your views and it will suggest a party for you to vote for. That way you'll be voting as close to your ideals as you can.

Personally I am not voting. I feel that I am being made to choose between unsuitable candidates so I am not choosing. I don't subscribe to the view that women should vote because the suffragettes got us the right to vote. They also got us the right to have jobs outside the home - but we can still be SAHMs if we believe that is the best decision under our own particular circumstances.

If you genuinely can't choose between the other main parties, then pick a smaller party (greens, independent) that you agree with and vote for them. For smaller parties/candidates it can mean they do not lose their deposit.

Some position. We've had the same Tory mp since 1997. Can't imagine it changing so I'm voting for the party who's policies I most agree with.
If you are considering tactical voting check out the yougov website otherwise go for who you believe in.