Genuine question for Tory voters

Killdora, the scaremongering over schools is just that, scaremongering.

The fairer funding was introduced to put all schools on a level playing field. Some have benefitted, some have lost but all should now be roughly equal.

Our local press has been full of news that there has been a reversal over the proposed cuts and none of our schools will lose in this area.
The local Tory candidate played a large part in that. So I don't believe for one second that they don't care about education.

Quick internet search should tell you.

Ankleswingers how many teachers is your school going to lose due to the funding cuts (in real terms)

My local primary will lose the equivalent of three, my local secondary is losing the equivalent of fourteen teachers.

Have you checked?

I vote Tory. My family vote Tory.

My DC go to a state School.

Plenty of my friends are the same.

I do not have to justify this and I do not want to either.

I am sick and tired of these Tory bashing threads.

She isnt asking why are they in state school

She obviously believes like i do that that the education system has suffered over the last 7 years and doesn't understand why anyone would vote to continue that

Apologies if i have misunderstood anyone, its just that some people are replying with reasons why their children are in state school and i dont believe thats what she is asking

nobody yell at me...i want a nice middle as well

Can anyone who votes Tory and has a child in state school explain to me why?

Because not everyone can afford or agrees with private education. Because education should be available for all children from four to eighteen with no cost bar taxes.

You don't have to be rich to vote Tory. People vote three ways usually, either to stop a party getting in, the one they feel is best for the whole country or the one that nets them the most (benefits).

I'm a teacher married to a high earner.

We, as a family, are more than happy to pay more tax to support our NHS and schools.

Civilised thriving countries on the continent do this and it works very well - and they have some of the best education and highest standards of living in the world.

The thought of another 5 years of Tory rule is frightening - and I hope all those of you refusing to pay more tax have enough to pay for private healthcare and private schooling because you'll need it.

Can anyone who votes Tory and has a child in state school explain to me why?

Because I don't have a spare £15K X 2 a year to spend on private school, and I like the dc's school, thank you.

Is this poster from the same stable who suggested on a recent thread that higher rate taxpayers shouldn't be allowed to send their dcs to state schools? Interesting idea! And another poster who suggested that public sector workers shouldn't have to pay tax... I hope they're not in Jeremy Corbyn's proposed cabinet...

But if you aren't employed and there are reasons you can't take a job, moving to a higher unemployment area shouldn't matter too much.

I agree with you regarding agency fees and bonds and moving costs, I think the State would be better served giving grants for moving costs than a helping funds with continual higher rent. But it still should be a consideration.

It's incredible how all those ominously saying "I remember the 3 day week" have forgotten that it happened under a CONSERVATIVE government.

I'm no Tory fan but even I wouldn't hold it against them too much as it was a result of complicated economic circumstances.

Holding it against Labour is just bizarre (or misinformed).

I abhor fox hunting and would hate to see it returned, however I was listening to a discussion where one farmer said she'd lost 50 lambs to foxes. The argument for fox hunting seemed to be that hunting produced a kill where as shooting often left a wounded animal and therefore the hunt was considered more humane. I'm an animal lover and hate the thought of both, but I do think that it is the governments duty to consider the views of all, no matter how unpalatable they are.
Returning to the original question no they haven't changed my mind at all, it was all a bit Jeremy kyle for my liking although i thought Amber Rudd did well.

Returning to the original question. I'm a floating voter. I do rather like Jeremy Corbyn. I feel Teresa May is out of touch with the general populus and am really hacked off with her views on fox hunting. However, political parties aside, I'll be voting for the person I feel will best serve the UK when dealing with the EU negotiations and Trump. To have as a friend, I'd choose Jeremy, for Prime Minister, it's Teresa May (but I wouldn't want to break bread with her).

Right, and how do I get the money to move to these places?

Deposit, moving vans, month's rent in advance, letting agent fees etc...

I can afford my rent, btw. Cheaper housing would not help my situation. I was just pointing out that £300 pcm, 2 bed houses are few and far between unless you plan to move to the most deprived areas where jobs are fewer and further between.

Moving away from a job to net cheaper rent in an area of high unemployment helps no-one.

Mother Expand your search by 15 miles, you get 116 properties. 10 miles gets you 88. So plenty of places to live if you choose to do so.

The rest of the EU didn't want brexit. May keeps saying she will get the best deal, but she's apparently despised in Europe for her attitude that the EU will want to bend over backwards to help us leave with a great package. I'm wondering whether someone else - and obviously the only alternative is Corbyn - will have the distance from the referendum to build bridges for us.

Perhaps we need a new party .... like Macron has managed in France.
The slightly squishy but still economically viable middly party...

Linden was an auto correct for lib dem

No difference to me at all
The problems I am having is tallying not being able to vote for labour
Not liking most of the conservative manifesto
And knowing that my very heartfelt linden vote is wasted.

I taught under Labour in rural Cornwall. We had a really rock bottom spend per pupil, whereas urban and especially metropolitan areas got so much more. It's about time there was a redistribution.

Lottie you do realize that people are free to vote for whoever they choose, right? I expect my DS will go to state school although he is too young at the moment. I vote Tory. I volunteer at a hospice. I have a disability. What is your point?

I heard a radio discussion yesterday. One woman was voting Labour because the education funding to her school meant that they would lose a couple of teachers. Another woman was voting Conservative because her children's school were receive more funding, putting them on a fairer level with other schools.

I understood that it is not a case of school funding being cut, but simply redistributed to give fairness to all.

Can anyone who votes Tory and has a child in state school explain to me why?

Our rent is stupidly high (over £700 pcm for a 2 bed). Which we could comfortably afford when DP was able to work. He had a mental health crisis when I was pregnant with our second child and days like today he now genuinely struggles to get out of bed/ eat.

Now I would love us to move closer to my family for the support and because it's a much cheaper area. We could save over £200 per month on rent easily. But how are we meant to get the agency fees, deposit and first months rent together that would allow for that? We are saving (a pittance a month) but it will take a long time and meanwhile we are sinking.

My DP didn't ask to have a breakdown. It's not as simple as move to cheaper housing when you have nothing. It takes money to move.

Head of the .....
me too. And I liked the middle. I can't understand why the Libdems took such a hammering for one fairly minor imo issue. So what if adults are asked to pay back university education costs - surely being educated for free for 18 years is enough!!
I liked the middle ......

So under this proposal that only basic life saving care is provided by the NHS, who helps the self harming, bulimic teenagers?

While the parents are expected to help them alone, which is how the situation is currently for us, then how can benefits be a temporary prop?

I can either provide support for my child or work outside the home and not be there when my child is taking a razor to her wrists. I can't do both. There's only one of me.