I think the tories will lose

I'm not a shy Tory I'm a loud, proud Tory

Same here. I'd be ashamed to be a Labour voter though, why would I want to align myself with the absolute dregs of society? The Tories will win, I think we'll find that most people don't want to live in some kind of 1970s socialist shit hole.

I really hope the conservatives win and we can get a decent proper Labour Party free from JC and his crew.

Sittinonthefloor I don't know what to say I am not a trained negotiator. The point being Corbyn is discussing uncomfortable truths. ALL terrorist groups end up negotiating, and when I say all I am not referring to domestic terror groups - I didn't say or imply that. Think PLO.

If you think inflation is awful, remember the 1970s....
Trouble is a lot of young people can't remember the high inflation high unemployment era of labours reign. Never mind about fretting about a zero hours contract you would be desparate for anything. Nowadays I wander round town and there are lots of posters advertising work - that was unheard of in my youth.
In fact the news used to do a rolling count weekly of jobs lost - unheard of today.

We all want the goodies that jc promises.
However I don't think he will run the economy well enough to pay for them.
It's just not realistic.
We will al have to pay more taxes for the things we want not just a few.

Negotaiate with ISIS? And say what exactly? They are in a bit of a different league to domestic terrorist groups.

CCHQ do start early though I'll give them that, allthough guess they didnt go out and celebrate much last night think that was left to the others who actually won the leadership debate

It's nice though as Corbyn goes up in the polls the frothing from CCHQ gets louder its a beautiful thing to watch

How very sneery of you. As far as I can tell there have only been one or two people state they will be voting Tory, are you assuming the rest?

New economic figures are awful.

Debt up. Inflation up. Growth nonexistent.

No plan.

How Corbyn said - about a year ago- that he'd want to invite ISIS to have a cup of tea with him to talk about peace and less 'terror'? They ought to be sectioned, the lot of them, not thinking about running the country

ALL major terror groups end up negotiating - to believe otherwise is to indulge in the naivete you accuse others of.

I am no fan of Diane Abbot but let's just look at Boris imperialist , sexist, twat Johnson. Both sides, all sides have their fair share of imbeciles.

CCHQ do start early though I'll give them that, allthough guess they didnt go out and celebrate much last night think that was left to the others who actually won the leadership debate

It's nice though as Corbyn goes up in the polls the frothing from CCHQ gets louder its a beautiful thing to watch

Liars, incompetent, heartless and self-serving.

I think that applies to all parties to be honest.

I think Tories will get majority, hope not tho.

Think May has done them serious damage in a few ways:

• carers issue
• her own performances on campaign so far
• her failure to take part in debate.

Think the failure to take part in debate is really poor. She's portraying herself as the only person to lead brexit negotiations but is afraid she'll perform poorly in a debate with the other party leaders in her own country?

Think she's either making v poor decisions herself or being v badly advised.

Wake up and vote Tory. No thanks. Liars, incompetent, heartless and self-serving.

Lib Dem for me.

Can you imagine the terror threat to the UK if Diane Can't add up Abbott was in charge of it all? And her side kick John who can't admit openly he wants to get rid of MI5? But we know that's what he wants.

Are you even aware of what these people are saying?
Are you so influenced by the mantra of 'more money for everything' that you fail to see what is behind it all?

How Corbyn said - about a year ago- that he'd want to invite ISIS to have a cup of tea with him to talk about peace and less 'terror'? They ought to be sectioned, the lot of them, not thinking about running the country.

FGS wake up!

There will be a Conservative majority, possibly at the lower end of some of the recent predictions but still fairly comfortable.

The gilt has thoroughly come off the May gingerbread during this awful campaign, and also UKIP have been assimilated, so the headbanger tendency in her own party will be emboldened and liberated to make as much trouble as possible.

Very well said PollyPerky

People who want Corbyn (and Abbott as Home Secretary? Gawd, get real please) are being hoodwinked.

We ALL want what he promises- more money for EVERYTHING! Yay -bring it on!!!!

Just one question- where is the money coming from?

If you tax the tiny number of super rich you end up with LESS tax. See the research. They find ways to avoid tax or they work less hard.

If you increase corporation tax, do you think Nissan, and other companies currently employing people in the NE will stay here and continue to invest in the UK? No.

The only way to give people all they want is a sound economy. Nothing, just nothing,, is possible without it.

You are completely deluded if you think labour can run the economy by using their Robin Hood approach.

And don't be fooled by their 'principles' - the unions who pay for their campaigns are far far more dictatorial, corrupt and intent on feathering the nests of their leaders than the 'nasty' Tories. Have you looked at the salaries and perks of the leaders of these unions? Don't kid yourselves they care about the 'little people' aka the Workers.

Sadly I still think that the most likely outcome is a Tory majority. I think May will soon be on her way out whatever the outcome.

I don't understand why Rudd didn't point out the unfairness of asking non graduates to fund graduates, the opportunity cost of that policy and the huge unaffordablity of his policies now and in the future - As a student, I agree. If I want a higer education I should pay for it. MOST of my fellow students (on my course at least) disagree, they're only too happy to vote for Corbyn on this factor alone. The current system, IMO, is fine. Those who cannot afford to pay it back never have to anyway. Those who can afford to pay it back damn well should.

Thank you @sleepyowl12

I am afraid I don't have the figures of how much it costs to prosecute the low disability fraud cases, as given earlier which stands at only 0.5% to hand and I need to go to sleep soon
I know the figure seems very low but as I stated earlier that figure is likely a lot higher as it would only include, I assume, those who have been caught and prosecuted? Judging from the number of people I personally know to have committed fraud I'd put the number quite a bit higher (still the figure I imagine it to be would probably be considered low too).

I do know sanctions for fraud now are very strict both in fees and prison sentences.

However, as I said previously no system is free of fraud, as the HMRC will tell you when collecting the nation's tax, but the figures show for disability benefit it is low. If people want zero fraud then they would have to stop all payments.

I hadn't considered the cost of tribunals etc from the other side of the coin, but I can imagine such costs would probably be more than those who commit fraud in the first place so it does appear to be counter-productive.

Whilst I do think there are other people the government needs to clamp down on, more so than benefit fraud, I think the reason people (myself included) get so angry about benefit fraud is because it's more visible to the average person. I don't know anyone involved in tax evasion, I don't visibly see MPs using their expenses etc (although both bother me), what I do see frequently is people committing benefit fraud (not just in regards to disibility I might add) - right now I'm at university but when I was working on minimum wage, ridiculously long hours, it was painful to see those people going about their daily lives with seemingly little care in the world. I know people like to say on here that I can't possibly know these people are committing benefit fraud but believe me I do. There are 2 people in my street at it right now. A family member of mine was convicted for fraud of over £20k. I know of many, many more. This is why I think it's unfair for people to spew hatred at those who simply feel that someting needs to be done about benefit fraud. I don't know what the solution is, the Conservatives certainly have a made a mess of the entire situation to put it mildly, but I do know that many people are fed up (in my area anyway) of those who abusing the system.

I would like to see a left leaning coalition and would love the stories to lose. But I don't think they will, despite a woeful campaign. That said, after the last couple of years, nothing is predictable!

The sad thing is, it'll be the people who need the most help who suffer the most. If corbyn gets in and his maths doesn't work and the economy tanks (as it always has by the end of a labour govt) and business and high earners do leave the country - and he certainly doesn't make high earners feel wanted! - then there won't be the cash to fulfil his visions and promises. So he'll increase taxes more and borrow more and it will get worse and worse. when he is then voted out, the next regime will have to pick up the pieces, and it will be the young, the disabled and those who can't afford to leave doing just that.

Why isn't there anyone sensible in the middle? I mean - 60,000,000 people in Britain, and we're stuck with a choice between the policies of a cold blooded robot and an idealistic mathematically incompetent terrorist hugging dinosaur?!

Also, I wonder why he hasn't been called on making the largest peacetime tax rises on individuals and corporations at a time when we are going through Brexit. Even if you agree with tax rises as I do, none of this change is being done in a careful considered manner.

I really hope Corbyn doesn't win, I despair these he's managed to bribe so many voters with his goodies for all approach. I don't understand why Rudd didn't point out the unfairness of asking non graduates to fund graduates, the opportunity cost of that policy and the huge unaffordablity of his policies now and in the future.

It's looking more likely that a hung Parliament will be in place post election, just like 2010. If that is the case, then I think the government should be comprised of a cross party arrangement, especially given the pressing issue of Brexit.