May vs Corbyn

Well well well. That webchat went down faster than a lead balloon didn't it? Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Oh dear Corbyn. FAIL.

That's my thought too gunting. Much prefer KS to DD!

Corbyn has grown on me somewhat.

Theresa May was very lacklustre. Everything apparently up for consultation or green papers, especially dementia tax cap. It basically translates as her not knowing the answers and having given the issues little or no thought at all.

I think he'd be an excellent negotiator for brexit.

I don't know why media have painted him out to be this bumbling idiot who couldn't find his way out of a paper bag. He is very clearly, the opposite.

Thought Corbyn was excellent.

My 14 year old watched it with me, trying to understand more about politics and the election. He simply said, 'I like him. He's a good man'

I think he's right.

I'm enjoying the campaign. If Labour don't win, at least right now I feel hope. Hope that things can change.

I thought under a much harsher grilling Corbyn was very strong and composed unlike Theresa May who basically seems to think she can get away without actually giving us any details on costings of manifesto,cap level on "dementia" tax and even Brexit.

I was never voting Tory but was not too keen on Corbyn but over last few weeks i think he has shown to be more open,honest and a stronger leader and i honestly think he could handle tough Brexit talks better.

IvorHughJarrs I too have some concerns with some of Corbyns policies.

But a number of things became clear to me tonight.

The feeling in that midwifes voice when she clearly didn't believe that May was helping the NHS in anyway. I bought the line about increased spending, I've had no cause to use the NHS recently.

I couldn't deny what that midwife was clearly saying though. Same with the teacher.

But the most important thing, to me, that became apparent was that Corbyn rules by consensus. If the majority of people disagree with him, he listens. Hence the manifesto not being about all of the stuff he personally believes in.

That really resonated with me. And means that I can switch my vote without reservation.

After seeing him tonight (not an edited version of him I'd been seeing) I truly believe he can lead well.

I think tonight has made me realise I like Corbyn and his plans a lot better than May and hers but I have far more concerns about him and his plans too so I am no further forward

A few hours ago I had firmly made up my mind. I watched the debate out of curiosity.

Now my decision has completely changed.

Diane Abbott needs to slip into the background- and fast!

I knew Corbyn would come across well to a lot people. A little like a kindly uncle.

But I have seen a couple of interviews where he was not so kindly and I saw a harsh temper revealed.

What a lot of people need to remember is that he is a person that has unexpectedly become the labour leader. And that even when the most of the parliamentary party wanted him to resign he would not, citing that the PEOPLE wanted him.

Someone that is blind to the fact that the general public do not see him as a potential statesman and will not vote Labour just because of him alone.

Instead he makes a mockery of his own idealism by willing to bring down the labour party by clinging on to power. Even worse he has surrounded himself with cronies and has by given a key post of shadow home secretary to a former lover. I may have half forgiven him for that if it wasn't for the fact that Diane Abbot is and always has been quite inept and even worse a self serving hypocrite. A case of do as I say rather do as I do.

Bit of a waffle there myself

I think it was unfair to bring up IRA with Corbyn but not selling arms to Saudi Arabia who then supply weapons to Isis and bomb the shit out of Yemen with May. Yet when Corbyn argues that he wants a nuclear free world Paxmans response is 'wouldnt we all?'. Clearly not!

He didn't tackle her enough on NHS or schools or even immigration. She says that reducing immigration will be easier once we are out of the EU yet she failed to reduce the non EU immigration figures adequately as home secretary. What's changed Theresa?

I think Corbyn had to go round the houses a bit with some of his responses because Paxmans interrogating is so negative. He gets to his answer in the end but discusses relevant parts of their policy first. Some politicians just say a script that is very loosely connected to the question, ie May, but i don't think he falls into that category.

Im glad some Tory voters have said she didn't do well as i actually thought she did. But i was hoping she would massively fuck up so on that basis she did alright.

Also glad it's opened some people's eyes. I thought that this programme wouldn't really be watched by anyone who hadn't already formed an opinion.

I'm so worried about the election results. I personally think that this is our only chance for a very long time of having a decent person as PM. It might well swing back to the right after 5 years (i hope not) but they would be able to implement so many good policies that a right wing government would have to work through to unpick. They've done so much damage since 2010 and the erosion is just going to continue.

Corbyn did better I feel.
This will not be reflected in the Press....
We are in for a Tory future....
Grim...

But
May has no interest in the interest of the country, unless they are high earners.

I agree bluntness, May did not get an easy ride from Paxo either, so at least on that level he appeared to be even handed in his cuntiness.

"Corbyn is an idealist which is good thing for a private individual, but not necessarily so for a leader. A country's leader needs to put the well being and safety of citizens first, even when some decisions clash with their own personal long held beliefs. I'm not sure that Corbyn could do that."

This.

I actually agree with her, we can't do a deal that will cripple us. I doubt it will come that but we need to be prepared to walk away. There is no negotiation if one party will accept anything and the other party knows it.

I personally thought they both got a hard time and got asked the awkward questions, I did think it was an exercise more on how they behaved under pressure rather than anything else. It was just paxman heckling them, not sure of the point really.

Jokes aside though, corbyn came across better than I expected (it pains me to say that!) , but sadly was still unable to convince me on the big issues that matter to me. The labour party and this manifesto just do not reassure me that they can deliver the goods.

Corbyn will always do better than May in debating with an audience as that is what he had been doing from the back benches for years.

May is a nervous speaker but I think she is vry much a pragmatist.

Corbyn is an idealist which is good thing for a private individual, but not necessarily so for a leader. A country's leader needs to put the well being and safety of citizens first, even when some decisions clash with their own personal long held beliefs. I'm not sure that Corbyn could do that.

Well, I definetly will not be voting for Paxman, that is now clear.