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£10 Minimum Wage

39 replies

ExtraPineappleExtraHam · 18/05/2017 18:31

I work in a shop. It's an independent shop with two stores, 30 members of staff, if Labour raise the minimum wage to £10 an hour this will result in staff cuts, cut in hours and perhaps an increase in our prices.
I'm a leftie but I can't see how this new minimum wage would work, it will make many small businesses face very difficult challenges. What about people on slightly more than the minimum wage, like supervisors, assistant managers. The employer won't put their money up as well so where's the incentive to go for promotions?
Also what about people who do difficult jobs like care work, nursing, work in the complaints department, empty bins. Won't they all just switch to doing something stress free and easy (like my job selling olives to middle class people) rather than do what they currently do?

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HoneyDragon · 19/05/2017 09:50

How do you suggest people start business then?

LightYears · 19/05/2017 09:43

unicorn why the hell do you bother then.

LightYears · 19/05/2017 09:40

So if the profits are that low in companies that they can't afford to pay each employee a couple of quid more an hour, then I think they should give it up, it's not a viable business.

unicornpoopoop · 19/05/2017 09:40

Yes we barely break even most months. Not sure how we'll cope with the increase in wages. Especially as it's forced. What it generally means is that the newer inexperienced staff end up on the same pay as the long term staff.
We would like to be able to offer pay rises to everyone fairly as and when they deserve it but this is taking that option away.
We just do not have the funds.
In an ideal world (in my own opinion), new starters would have lower wages and then get a yearly payrise on review.
The problem is lots of big companies, that can afford to pay more, take advantage of the minimum wage by only ever paying that, and they ruin it for everyone.
Of course everyone should be paid fairly, but I can see a lot of people deciding not to get into skilled work as they pay gap between skilled and unskilled will be too small

HoneyDragon · 19/05/2017 09:32

Light is not as simple is it? Cash is king, you need profits to put aside as a safety net for a bad month or lack of confidence in the market so you can still pay wages when there is less work rather than lay people off. We need smaller company's to be able to make good profit margins to keep their staff through lean times. Some smaller business may we'll be buggered by it.

LightYears · 19/05/2017 09:27

Right small businesses out there, what are you profits, are you willing to say what your profits are now and what they'd be if £10 mw came in.

HoneyDragon · 19/05/2017 09:24

I don't want to get jumped on as Labour bashing as I'm not. This is purely an anecdote but left me frustrated after talking to a Labour rep.

I expressed my concerns about the raising of corporation tax. As a company we follow the genuine Living Wage as our base rate and at it regardless of age etc.

If the company is struggling the only people facing a pay cut are directors and management.

His solution was we pay our staff less as £10 per hour is perfectly acceptable as a wage and then we can pay more in corporation tax. As benefits will top up anything else.

As a responsible employer that's left me somewhat disillusioned Confused

LightYears · 19/05/2017 09:24

Tough shit, the workers at the bottom have took this crap for far too long.

Heratnumber7 · 19/05/2017 09:16

What business is going to take a cut in profits though Light?
For small businesses this could put them out of business, for larger businesses their shareholders would be affected and likely take their money elsewhere.

ExplodedCloud · 19/05/2017 09:15

Rufus yes that's correct. They're aiming for 60% of the average wage as minimum wage which is expected to be £9ph by 2020. So all the fuss is about a £1 difference.

LightYears · 19/05/2017 09:10

I'm not sure why people keep using low earners as the scapegoat. Look towards the cutting of profits.

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 19/05/2017 09:06

Its my understanding that the tories want to raise it to £9

If thats the case surely thats going to have the same sort of effect

P1nkSparkles · 18/05/2017 20:35

I have to be honest... I'm worried that constantly raising the minimum wage is just going to raise inflation & bearing in mind public sector wages have not risen by more than 1% in ages it's not going to be long until there is going to be a negligible gap between trained professionals such as teachers and nurses and entry level positions.

I don't really understand (although I'm sure others more educated can explain) why they don't look at ways of bringing the cost of living down instead??

RortyCrankle · 18/05/2017 19:19

Don't worry, Labour have as much chance of winning the GE as I have of winning the lottery and since I don't buy a ticket that's nil Smile

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