Lifelong Labour supporters who feel we need a more robust leader than Corbyn, how are you voting?

More robust than sticking it out through two bloody leadership challenges, you mean? More robust than being relaxed and confident in the leadership debate the PM was too chicken to even attend?! Who are you kidding? He's the best Labour leader you're likely to get, and one of the best the party has ever had. I don't agree with his fatalistic approach to leaving the EU, and my local Labour MP is a cunt, so I won't be voting for him, but still.

You don't vote for the leader. Look at your local candidates and consider the manifesto. I worry Corbyn hasn't got what he needs to lead but then isn't anybody better than a Tory.

I despair of the left's inability to form some type of coalition.

I'm hoping that his age will encourage him to go. He clearly does not want to be doing this and never expected to, but felt obliged to because of the vote. My worry is that he'll go after someone even worse is primed for leadership. But who knows? I've got to the point where nothing surprises me anymore!

feel they should have to clean up the mess they made over Brexit
This is exactly what I feel, as it's bound to be a disaster, so they definitely wouldn't win the following election. This would, in theory, give Labour time to regroup... but...

hopefully with new leader and left of centre policies
There won't be a new leader. There might have been, if Labour had been heavily defeated, but that won't happen. You're lucky to have an excellent local Labour MP to vote for, though.

Labour as have an excellent local MP so happy to campaign and vote for her. But would vote LibDem to oust a Tory if I lived in a close Tory-held seat.

Think Tories will win though and feel they should have to clean up the mess they made over Brexit. Anything less than a landslide will look bad for TM and Labour will have some time to regroup before the next GE, hopefully with new leader and left of centre policies.

I would say vote Labour Their manifesto really gives me hope as a Mum and a Primary teacher.
But it's a fairy story, a bit like the Brexiteers and their money for the NHS. (Almost) everyone thinks the NHS needs more money, so a sure-fire winner was to say vote leave, and we'll save the NHS. Obviously, lies. Hope is a powerful emotion, but logic is needed.

In a similar way, (almost) everyone thinks schools and hospitals need more money. Put that in your manifesto, claim it's costed, and it gives people hope. But the figures really don't work.

I have two children planning 4+ year courses, and the manifesto would personally save the family c £9kx4x2 = £72k+ plus interest. We are not top-rate tax payers (and neither are 95% of the population), so we'd be quids in. We'll be retired soon, so another gain there.

But the claims just aren't true. Listen to More or Less on R4
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08sl5xt

So when the figures don't work, where will the money come from? And what about the latest vote-winning promises regarding cancelling existing student tuition fee debt? Will they just not carry out these promises? Will they borrow more? I despair of the current Labour party, and can't vote for them, even though I want more money for all these things.

I'm probably going to vote LibDems, who have suggested adding 1p on income tax for the 60% of people who actually pay any income tax. But they're not going to win where I live. However, I may just vote Tory, which I've never done, and would be distraught to do so. I think a hung parliament would be the worst disaster of all.

I would say vote Labour Their manifesto really gives me hope as a Mum and a Primary teacher. Better childcare , more protection at work and also keeping the free meals for under eight year olds What's not to like? I'm not particularly keen on May or Corbyn but the Labour Party have always been kinder to working and stay at home Mum and Dads

Holding my nose and voting Labour. I love the manifesto and whilst I'm Corbyn-sceptic, I'm not going to enable the bloody Tories to set about the weak and the vulnerable so I can make some juvenile point about Corbyn through the ballot-box.

Like it or lump it, Corbyn is what we've got and you don't stop supporting your team because you don't like the current manager.

I honestly still don't know who to vote for. It's a Labour safe seat where I am, really don't see the Tories ever getting in. So safe the Lib Dems and Greens have barely made an effort, finding anything about them is very limited. I like our Labour MP, just am increasingly finding I can't stand Corbyn and have concerns about quite a few of the policies.

The stance where he is appalled at IRA bombings and against us bombing other countries? That stance?

I am going to vote LibDem

Corbyn and McDonnell should have been kicked out of the party years ago especially Corbyn he is an utter disgrace

A man with his background simply can't be the leader of the UK and won't be

The thought of the Tories winning which they will is depressing but him leqding the country just should never ever happen

I am sure the connections will be all over the press this week to remind people who he really is and dispell this myth of the principled man he isn't

Unfortunately Labour are stuck with him for some time yet maybe the party will split, apart from his supporters around him other Labour MP's are keeping very quiet

And Corbyn supports really don't bother patronising me with he only wanted peace rubbish you must read the Mail/Sun his stance has been known about for ages

Just keep reporting, lucydogz, spamming isn't allowed

oh hallo blackstar. Different thread, same shit. We can't go on meeting like this.

Like many others on this thread, I'm a life long Labour voter and consider myself a socialist. I had a choice between Tory (large majority), Green, Independent, Lib Dem and Labour. I agonised for days, thinking I should choose the Independent who promised to prioritise local issues but in the end I went for Labour . I'm disappointed in Corbyn, but I hope May won't get her landslide and Labour will try harder to be an effective opposition. Maybe if they do better than expected it will be an end to the in-fighting? (optimist)

I'm voting labour. It's got to be a strategic vote.

Me too op.
Life long labour voter.
Voting lib dem this time.
No point really, as it's true blue Tory land round here and 67% voted leave.
But my alternative is....spoil my ballot.

Corbyn's own constituency voted 72% remain.
Maybe they should all vote Libdem and then the job will be done.

Corbyn is

• anti EU
• anti semite
• sexist
• unwilling to compromise and negotiate

for those reasons he is unelectable
nothing to do with media bias

Based on results of local elex, Labour are going to get their arses kicked on 9 June.

He's also very divisive - you're either with him or against him. If the latter, you're out, get no briefings and no information, no input to anything.

I'm finding his 'policies' totally bewildering, what good will four more bank holidays do anyone? The thing I saw said "the workers need a break". Hmm, I don't think they have understood how employment law and statutory holidays work, have they!?

I love that so many MP's (even in his own party) hate him because they know their gravy train could be derailed by him.

No they don't like him because for example of his weak stance on anti semitism, his 'friends' etc. The fact that McDonnell stood and spoke in front of the communist flag and others the other day, and the party leadership has done nothing.

Yesterday was a disaster yet it seem to be everything and everyone's fault but his.

SheRaa - frankly you can be as fucked off with me as you like.

I can't stand the current leadership team and whatever you say it is a massive part of any voting decision. Can you really see JC, McDonnell and Abbott leading this country with their Momentum buddies arms so far up their backsides they are tickling their tonsils?

My constituency is Tory - Labour came second last time and LibDem the time before (a very close second). Labour is going to be crushed this time around, so a LibDem vote is the most realistic chance of stopping the Tories where I am.

That said if my local MP was Labour and someone who wasn't part of the JC gang then I would absolutely vote for them. We have to have some good MP's left to pick up the pieces.

I've been so torn.

For me, Brexit is the biggest issue in town.

In the locals yesterday, for mayor, I voted Green first and LD second (it's a transferable vote). It's a Tory stronghold so no chance of swaying anything, and I couldn't face voting Labour. First time I have ever not voted Labour.

It was a totally pointless protest vote in the hope that increased votes for those two would show the main parties how shit they are. But sadly the rest of the country voted Tory, so there you go.

You know what, I like Corbyn, he's not perfect but I love that so many MP's (even in his own party) hate him because they know their gravy train could be derailed by him. So many complain about MP's expenses etc, here's a chance to kick them up their arses. Either way, I would rather poke my eyes out than use my ballot in any way that could make it even more likely for the Tories to stay in.

guess it's too much to hope Corbyn and McDonnell fall on their swords tonight after the worst local election results since the recorded beginning of political time?

Yes, it's too much to hope. I'd bet my house that they won't even resign after a general election trouncing. They don't care about defeating the Tories, only the ideological purity of the party matters to them.