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Trumps Tweets

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 03/01/2017 13:26

What did Trump mean by "North Korea just stated that it is in the final stages of developing a nuclear weapon capable of reaching parts of the U.S. It won't happen!"?
Was he deriding North Korea's manufacturing capability - which has been somewhat unreliable, but may not remain so, or was he saying that North Korea would be stopped?

It's very hard to tell what he ever means with such short statements. He's had an 'interesting' Christmas with his tweets. He promised that if he got elected he would hardly ever use social media. Funny sort of restraint he's showing.

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DoctorTwo · 10/01/2017 10:11

fake news stories created by Russia

Even the BBC reported most of the fake news sites reporting Trump news are based in one city in Macedonia.

Lweji · 10/01/2017 08:51

Yes. And as the article says, foreign leaders will have the measure of him.
Praise will get them a long way, but winding him up could also make him do serious mistakes.

Roussette · 10/01/2017 08:32

Yes, interesting times ahead, surely he has to give up the personal Donald tweets...

This outlines why. Too thin skinned and ego driven.

LadyMetroland · 09/01/2017 22:42

That is such a good question. As there is no precedent, I expect only The Donald himself knows. I kinda agree that he's likely to carry on with his personal account tweets, with his aides putting out the boring official ones.

I predict trouble ahead

Lweji · 09/01/2017 22:37

As far as I could tell, Obama rarely tweets himself.

But good question. The thing is that he will no longer be private individual Donald. Everything he'll say will be official.

squishysquirmy · 09/01/2017 22:28

Bit of a minor point, but after the inauguration he is expected to take over the official POTUS twitter account Obama currently uses isn't he? Because it belongs to the position, rather than to Obama.
Can anyone actually see him switching to that completely - I imagine that he is too attached to his current one to give it up (mainly because he loves his own name so much), so maybe the official POTUS account will be used by his aides tweeting on his behalf whilst he tweets bullshit from his own account.

Lweji · 09/01/2017 16:15

Yes.
I suppose that's why the Democrats haven't called for a new election or anything like that.
Only to identify and react against foreign interference.

I suspect a normal candidate would have said they rejected such interference, that they'd have like to (or they'd have) won anyway, but still reject it. Or say nothing at all, but at least respect the conclusions by their future security and information service.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 09/01/2017 16:10

Lweji, if the director of the fbi hadn't raised fresh concerns related to the emails just before the election she may have won and there are concerns that the fake news stories created by Russia will have had an impact.
The difficulty is that it is impossible to quantify what difference the interference will have made.

Very good Rousette.

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Lweji · 09/01/2017 14:53

Very good point. They can sort out a rota, surely.

Roussette · 09/01/2017 14:35

Love a tweet I've just read...

"If all famous people can constantly criticise Trump for the next four years, he'll be too busy ranting on Twitter to kill us all"

Trump's a pillock. Calling Meryl overrated... doesn't he realise she's already won three Oscars... she's wonderful and he's dim.
To analyse his tweets...
235 tweets with "loser" 222 tweets with "dumb" or "dummy" 202 tweets with "terrible" 182 tweets with "stupid" 154 tweets with "weak" 115 tweets with "dope" 108 tweets with "dishonest" 101 tweets with "lightweight"

Lweji · 09/01/2017 14:16

And now Meryl Streep is overrated :)

He retweeted something about Russia's hacking not having interfered with the election.
He does have a point. All the hacked emails ended up not harming Hillary that much. It was the FBI who nailed it.

Can anyone remember? It was my impression that the RNC had been hacked too, but nothing released.

And again a sore winner, still calling Hillary names. Just pathetic.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 09/01/2017 14:13

I have to go back to work in a few mins, but I've just looked at his twitter. oh my.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 09/01/2017 14:12

I can't get that to play on my ipad :( I'll try later.

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Lweji · 09/01/2017 14:07

Most people tend to read his tweets with Trump's "voice".

But Luke Skywalker has now started doing a Joker version (for whatever reason).
It sounds really scary.

audioboom.com/posts/5471405-the-trumpster-quote-1?t=0

Roussette · 08/01/2017 15:16

Oh yes, so agree kitten

“We can already see we have a president-elect who has difficulty with facts that are at odds with the narrative that he wants to tell or diminish his achievements. there is also plenty of precedent for a president who wants to cherry-pick information to advance his own policies. "

That's Trump to a T isn't it....

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 08/01/2017 10:58

Thanks for the links Kaija, I suspect he would prefer to analyse the data himself rather than have the intelligence agencies do it, I think he may find it difficult to trust people he hasn't personally appointed to do the job for him.

He is in a no win situation. Especially with his personality. I keep thinking back to Nixon.

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Kaija · 08/01/2017 00:16

David Remnick on Trump and Putin:

www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-putin-and-the-big-hack

Lweji · 07/01/2017 23:27

It's a dangerous path, because the CIA's conclusion that Trump was helped to power by a foreign government will never, and I suspect it could never, be accepted by that winner.
He'd basically have to recognise that he is an unworthy winner, possibly a faudulent winner (even if can be assumed he didn't actually ask for it).
It's a no win situation. If the CIA don't transmit their conclusions, it leaves the door open for further messing about. If they persist on accusing Russia, and claiming they influenced the elections, they'll alienate their own future boss.
Not sure what's the way out.

Kaija · 07/01/2017 23:17

It isn't getting any better:

thehill.com/policy/national-security/313123-intel-experts-worry-trump-will-go-rogue

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 07/01/2017 20:21

my reply didn't post, but no idea what I wrote!

A string of tweets today about working with Russia.

It is impressive at how he is assiduously ignoring the contents of the report. I do wonder at what he needs to do to end up being impeached.

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Lweji · 06/01/2017 22:25

Ups, maybe not. He seems to have said that it wouldn't be a bad idea to shoot Trump.

Lweji · 06/01/2017 22:22

The Anna Wintour tweet is also bizarre.
I'm sure it has to do with his fashion magazine obsession, but still...

This Twitter thing does feel like birdwatching.
I'd love it if the BBC Grin created a show with David Attenborough's comments about those tweets.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 06/01/2017 20:19

that's interesting Kaija, there's more to it of course, but he really is a character created out of media in essence.

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Lweji · 06/01/2017 19:14

5. We've been talking for a decade, glibly, about how 'all organizations are media organizations ' . Well, here it is.

Yes, true. As an employee of a research institution even I've had media training and we have people who deal with media relationships.
A few years ago all we cared about were scientific journals. Now even scientific projects have websites and twitter accounts. Shock

Kaija · 06/01/2017 17:43

Interesting tweets by Emily Bell on how the way to understand Trump is to look at him as a media organisation:

  1. Without wishing to draw more attention to Trump tweets, I do think that the only framing for him that works is as a media organization
  1. He is ratings-driven in all respects, (as someone who is actually a tv star would be ). He a/b tests all policies/statements/cabinet
  1. Bannon is important as a head of strategy because actually what Trump needs is not actual political strategy but an editor-in-chief
  1. Trump has also swallowed to digital media playbook -'authenticity', engagement, merging online presence w/offline events, personal brand
  1. We've been talking for a decade, glibly, about how 'all organizations are media organizations ' . Well, here it is.
  1. As @jayrosen_nyu talked about 'a different kind of candidate' we have a different kind of President - not a politician but a media outlet
  1. Perhaps TV reviewers should be assigned the White House beat. @emilynussbaum stand by
  1. The Medium is the Office. This is the age we have entered
  1. And finally - smart of him to get Peter Thiel onside early..because he is the default regulator of media these days