Trump (Part 6)

Journalists? I'm tempted to chant 'Glanderson Booper'

There were plenty of people who thought it was possible that Trump could win, its not like he didn't have any backing from the media at all, Sean Hannity backed him for one, as did Michael Moore, Fortune said it was unlikely but it could happen, even the Washington Post published articles on Trump winning prior to the election.

Still like with everything else, you are buying the narrative you are given, whilst all the time accusing others of the same thing. Oh the irony.

You can read to your heart's content about the beginnings of the EU, their original and current goals and all the rest of it. What I have posted earlier is not my opinion, as you seem to be suggesting. Maybe EU's library services are online these days. Check it out.

Perhaps Lweji, you simply dont understand how things work

Oh, I do.
But if you actually cared to explain how opinions become facts, I'm sure it would be a very interesting post.

All the professional journalists to a man got it wrong
Again, not true.

Which one predicted correctly?

Even Trump said he would accept it if the CIA and FBI wrote him a letter, both have confirmed it.

Dog bites man.

Trump says it is a lie, the elites say it is real. Who do you believe?

Considering Trump's record and Putin's, I'd say the CIA is on the money.

Which whisky shall you choose to go down with?

I'm a Johnnie Walker Green Label girl. You know they discontinued that blend of malts about 4 yrs ago, which means my stash went from c. £23 a bottle to £80, and last week I saw a bottle in a small shop marked as £100.

Fortunately or unfortunately, early this year the firm has started Green Label again.

The elites don't leave proof lying around. They are "very, very stupid people" but not that stupid. Was there proof of WMDs in Iraq?

You might want to read that sentence back to yourself.

In fact, if the elites are capable of such worldwide complex conspiracies, why couldn't they get some WMD into Iraq for show? Or just make up some fake news that they had?

How do stupid people manage to create such monumental conspiracies, such as climate change to the point of melting Artic ice just to pretend they're right?

How about the Russian intervention into the US election? Does that not count?

Really Claigy, you are fun, but your constant moving of definitions and what the Trump/Brexit vote really undermine your argument.

Doublethink: The acceptance of contrary opinions or beliefs at the same time, especially as a result of political indoctrination.

Cask strength, I reckon. We won't have much time.

Rig me once, shame on you, rig me twice, more shame on you

Proof?

Rigged the first time and had to be rerun. I wouldn't be surprised if the elites managed to rig it again

Oh puuuurleeeeease!

Well if we're going to discuss interference in elections...

Oh, claig, surely you can come up with a better excuse for your filed predictions on Austria than the ridiculous rigging allegation. Even the defeated candidate doesn't suggest that, and he knows a lot more about it than you do.

What I can not get over, leaving aside how much damage can be caused to the world in 4 years, is the fact that you have a man with the apparent impulse control of a 3 year old in charge of pressing the Big Button.

Frankly, I suspect that they'll give him a dummy red button and leave him to play on his own.

Clinton's popular vote was entirely from California

What a bizarre thing to claim. Self-evidently, California does not contain 2.8 million more voters than the rest of the US put together.

All the professional journalists to a man got it wrong.

Again, not true.

No-one claims the Daily Mail are always wrong, but they do have an appalling history of posting outright lies. Have a look at only their most recent apology, for instance. Then there was the time they had to apologise to J K Rowling for printing lies about her; the time they had to retract a ridiculous story about a hotel restaurant in Nigeria that they said served human flesh; when they had to grovel to Amal Alamuddin for printing outright lies about her family and their response to her marriage; when they had to admit they'd printed scare stories about Bulgarian and Romanian immigrants flocking to the UK when work restrictions were lifted in 2013, when in fact immigration from those countries dropped; the lies they printed about Israel allegedly intentionally opening dams to flood the Gaza strip - but the dams didn't actually exist; Juliet Shaw's exposé of direct lies and fraudulent quotes after they interviewed her for what was ostensibly a straight story about people who move from towns to the country, and the threatening phone calls they made when she sued successfully for defamation; the damages they had to pay to Brian Paddick for defaming him; and the printing of a totally fictional report about the dismissal of Amanda Knox's appeal when in fact it had been upheld.

So yes, no-one should trust the Mail if they're looking for the truth, particularly if it's a story relating to their eternal right-wing, racist, homophobic and misogynist agenda.