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I also think that Theresa May is an excellent woman, but I was not pleased at how she rebuffed using Farage as a go-between. I knew she had to say that, otherwise she would be aligning herself with Ukip, but just hope that she does give Farage some credit in private.

Going back a few posts but the flash mob attacks in Philadelphia have nothing to do with Trump. These have been a problem in Philly for a while. The same flash mob of teens attacked several students last month at TU. They just want to have a fight. I don't really get why you think the DM's coverage is anti Trump, claig. They are most definitely pro Trump biased and their coverage of the demonstrations has completely ignored the many, many peaceful demonstrations that have occured. I have never seen people so upset. There were people crying in the streets of my town on Wednesday. Not because their team lost but because of everything that Trump's campaign represents.

I'm taking the Farage trip to NYC with a generous pinch of salt. The photo of him with Trump was taken in the flippin' elevator, for God's sake.

I don't know how many of you saw last night's interview on CBS but Trump came across as more bewildered and overwhelmed than hard speaking. Whenever he was asked to say how he was going to implement any of his policies he was all flowery and "I'm not going to talk about that" or "We're not worrying about that right now". Until he got to abortion where he decided it would be a wonderful idea for women to have to go out of state. Which is just, errr, great. Let's go back in time and keep those darned women in their place, eh?

As a US resident, it's an extremely worrying time. And, imo, it wasn't the Democrats that were the losers but the whole country.

What Claig has said all along (and I now see it clearly) is that the media was working against Trump, which is hardly objective. All the TV presenters and journalists here and in USA continue to be hostile towards Trump. She always said that the whole media was against him because they are part of the rot that promulgates untruths and imports terrorists into both countries.

The intelligence and role of political journalist has taken a huge dip for me recently, especially when several of them have stated they never thought that Trump could win. Even the senior, very experienced Christiane Amanpour said the same on TV on Sunday morning. But why didnt they see it coming? Claig did, others on MN did - and we are not journalists with access to rallies or in a position to fire questions at politicians.

This suggests that they have no intuition, are shortsighted and without imagination. Or, they were deliberately fomenting hostility against one candidate. Quite frankly, if they are this crap or non-objective in their jobs they should find another one.

If I made a mistake of a similar magnitude in my job, I would be out. Most of them deserve to be booted out.

Farage was almost certainly out of his depth and in way above his head, but we owe him a debt of grattude for flying the UK flag right up there at the top and sticking two fingers up to the crooked elites who tried to take our freedoms from us, our sovereignty from us and our free speech from us.

I've always liked Farage, Claig, and wouldnt mind buying him a pie and a pint. I think he would be wonderful company. But just think of the stamina involved in the last 20+ yrs to take Ukip from nothing to a referendum. He said he does regret leaving the City just a bit early, before he made his million, but felt he had to.

The people will never have a saint as a leader

I agree, Claig. A leader should be hard-nosed and plain-speaking. That's what I liked about DT and what some Americans did too.

And Nigel Farage is an utter cockwomble. Offering to the "special envoy to the EU."

He is hateful and I don't get Claig's utter admiration for him. The man who stood in front of the Nazi style poster about people fleeing from war to stir up hatred. Nope...he is nothing to admire.

Depressed at how many posts over the past couple of pages that use the term "r*rds".

Hope MNHQ are watching...what with their "Every Child Matters campaign and all

A shame as some points are quite good.

If those rioting in the street cannot accept the result, then perhaps it's how voting is done. America may need to overhaul its electoral college system, but that has been in place for a very long time. You might as well say that the last 12 elections did not reflect the people’s real choice because of it, but you cannot pick & choose which elections are legitimate and which are not.

Extract from Wiki:

"The United States Electoral College is the body that elects the president and vice president of the United States every four years. Citizens of the United States do not directly elect the president or the vice president; instead they choose "electors", who pledge beforehand to vote for the candidate who wins in their party. Each state gets to choose as many electors as the combined total of the number of U.S. senators and representatives to which the state is entitled.

"The candidate who receives an absolute majority of electoral votes (currently 270) for the office of president or of vice president is elected to that office."

Wish they'd included Nige in that spoof - maybe the hedgehog.

way to go our Nige!

www.facebook.com/manstuff/videos/1346689075365535/

Copied this from another thread, thought you'd like it Claig!

I can see why Rousette has left this thread. There has been some vile rhetoric used in posts recently.
Since when was the word r*rd ever acceptable?

Global perspective

carnegieendowment.org/2016/11/11/u.s.-allies-and-rivals-digest-trump-s-victory-pub-65117#europe

Roussette - ditto. We need multiple perspectives here to put the world to rights

Roussette, I am sorry to see you go. I hope you come back when things have calmed down because you have made good points

Thanks claig. All the best to you.

Oh it gets better though....

At some point, and if I was him I'd wait a couple of days at least, Obama is going to consider whether he wants to go down in history as the man who waged a war on whistleblowers. He's not daft, and doesn't want to be remembered as authoritarian and see see that the tide is against him.

Course, as Secretary of State he's going to have to run pardoning Assange past.... Hillary Clinton!

Bwahahahahahahahaha!

I have to admit that of all the things which have amused me over the last week or so the thought of Hillary's face when her lawyers told her that he had a valid point... It just cracks me up!

A few days after losing the presidency too.

Well if you can't take pleasure in someone else's pain then you're losing out on a lot!

"Rather amusingly this appears to have been prompted by Assange's lawyers writing to the DOJ insisting that he be given the same legal test as that given to Hillary Clinton. :D"

Hopefully this is your last chance to get a Free Assange T-shirt from the wikileaks shop.