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claig · 12/11/2016 08:30

Another Trump thread for those who want to discuss what it all means

Article from another thread

"History Tells Us What Will Happen Next With Brexit And Trump"

www.huffingtonpost.com/tobias-stone/history-tells-us-what-will-brexit-trump_b_11179774.html?

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GlassCircles · 24/11/2016 11:41

I think he has established that he isn't playing by the rules, it's hardly news. It's already depressingly tedious.

So when is all the good stuff going to start happening?

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claig · 24/11/2016 11:31

" 'The Donald' will not play by the rules."

Trump has torn the rules up, he has torn the Establishment up, he has torn the Republican Party up, he has rewritten the rules and world elites have never been in such panic and the world's population has neever laughed and cheered so much.

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claig · 24/11/2016 11:29

'And on it goes. Blair, establishment, elite. No answers though.'

That is the answer. That is why they are in panic. That is why it is a revolution. That is why Jon Snow is distraught and the people are laughing.

The Guardian said it and they hated saying it

"Donald Trump's victory is nothing short of a revolution"

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claig · 24/11/2016 11:26

Buddies sending shock waves through Number 10: ISABEL OAKESHOTT explains how Trump's 'Farage for ambassador' plot was meticulously planned out
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I'm told that his 'Farage for ambassador' suggestion was meticulously 'war-gamed' by his advisers.
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As a result, Downing St can be in no doubt that when it comes to his dealings with Britain, as with everything else, 'The Donald' will not play by the rules.

In time, he may inevitably be more restrained, but for now, at least, he intends to do things his way.

As someone based in Britain who has been in daily contact with his team since his election told me: 'Fellow world leaders and diplomats had better get used to such behaviour.

'If they want to deal with him, they have to realise that Trump doesn't have any truck with diplomatic niceties.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3962704/Trump-s-Farage-ambassador-plot-meticulously-planned-out.html

It's a revolutionand Trump is the Peoples Ambassador. There has never been anything like this. Jon Snow is desperate. People are laughing.

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birdsdestiny · 24/11/2016 11:24

And on it goes. Blair, establishment, elite. No answers though.

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claig · 24/11/2016 11:20

'You realise that his team is nothing but Establishment, only Establishment of the worst sort.'

Of course it isn't. Do you think the Stump for Trump Sisters and the millions of Trump fans would have voted for an Establishment shower?

Have you some respect for Trump fans and the American people.

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Lweji · 24/11/2016 11:18

Erm... claig.

You realise that his team is nothing but Establishment, only Establishment of the worst sort.

Lweji · 24/11/2016 11:17

Respect for America.
There's a difference between respecting that a choice has been made and respecting what the choice was.
Unfortunately, it's Trump who has no respect for America and the one turning into a banana republic.

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claig · 24/11/2016 11:14

This is from the Guardian. They are in meltdown over there, there are daily Oxbridge conferences about Trump, there are PPEs in panic about what it will mean for their mates in the elite.

"Donald Trump's victory is nothing short of a revolution"

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/09/donald-trump-victory-us-election-result-revolution

Trump fans were worried that Trump would have to be all "Presidential", that the elites would get to him and control him. But Trump fans breathed a sigh of relief as the Trump twitter rants kept coming. They can't stump the Trump. The people are laughing as the Trump twitter tirades continue. All over Manhattan and Washington, Trump fans cry

"Let Trump be Trump" and let the people be free from the spinners and liars who serve the elites.

Jon Snow is in pieces and te more desperate he gets, the more the viewers laugh.

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GlassCircles · 24/11/2016 11:09

manipulative, cynical liar of the worst kind who is willing to stir up shit and exploit tensions and divisions for power.

Well I don't think you'd find many people, even his fans, arguing that he isn't manipulative shit-stirrer. And he's keen on power. Hmm.

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claig · 24/11/2016 11:06

'Banana republic, I tell you.'

Respect for America. Trump fans love Trump's tweets where he blasts the spinners and liars. It's a people's revolution.

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claig · 24/11/2016 11:03

'It's the demanding of 'respect' that I find odd '

Respect for democracy, respect for the American people who chose him, respect for ordinary people despite Jon Snow and the hysterical teams of spinners. Respect for America.

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squishysquirmy · 24/11/2016 11:02

And Claig, you are being naive. This is the internet. Unless you know a poster in real life, you have no idea who they are, or how extreme their views are. All we can go by is what they post, and make assumptions from that.

Lweji · 24/11/2016 11:00

Yes, people respect the position (which he doesn't have yet, he's just elect, not in office), but respect for the man has to be earned. And the man himself is commanding very little respect. He's still tweeting rants in the early hours.

Banana republic, I tell you.

squishysquirmy · 24/11/2016 10:59

"I take it for granted, it goes without saying, just like everyone condemns any act of terrorism."
Patently untrue or there would be no terrorists.

squishysquirmy · 24/11/2016 10:58

"And far right terrorism has absolutely nothing to do with Trump"

...It does when he fans the flames. One of many examples: "You second amendment people, maybe there is something you can do!"

GlassCircles · 24/11/2016 10:57

the sooner reason and respect for the President of the United States and the American people who voted for him can be restored.

It's the demanding of 'respect' that I find odd - respect has to be earned and he's done precious little to reassure on that front. On the contrary he has gone out of his way to inflame the WTF factor with regard to his public image.

Lweji · 24/11/2016 10:18

"if it looks like a duck ..." regarrding fascism.

Yes, my bad.

I should have written:
If it walks like a goose.
Not like a duck.

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claig · 24/11/2016 10:09

'I think the worse thing you accuse us of is being blairites'

I have never accused you or anyone apart from Kaija of being a Blairite. I asked Kaija if she was because it seemed to me that she was using the tried and tested Oxbridge Blairite spin in order to accuse Trump of being a fascist as well as his supporters.

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claig · 24/11/2016 10:07

And far right terrorism has absolutely nothing to do with Trump, the 45th President-elect of the United States. The sooner the media teams and Oxbridge teams stop their hysterical spin against Trump, the sooner that Jon Snow can calm down, the sooner reason and respect for the President of the United States and the American people who voted for him can be restored.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 24/11/2016 10:07

The thing is Claig, you are actually one of the moderate pro Trump people on here. You do tend to stay polite, I think the worse thing you accuse us of is being blairites, which we either find odd or insulting, but in the grand scheme of things others say at times not bad on the scale of it all.

Other Trump supporters on here are much more aggressive in their view points.

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claig · 24/11/2016 10:02

Are you trying to imply that Chris supports that? I assume you condemn Isis, just like everyone else, and I have respect for Chris that Chris condemns far right terrorism.

I don't expect you to post that you "condemn Isis", I take it for granted, it goes without saying, just like everyone condemns any act of terrorism.

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InformalRoman · 24/11/2016 10:01

^Glass: Either Trump believes his own rhetoric, in which case he is a fascist.
Or he doesn't, in which case he is a manipulative, cynical liar of the worst kind who is willing to stir up shit and exploit tensions and divisions for power.^

Oh, I'd go for option B on that one.

squishysquirmy · 24/11/2016 09:57

I would respect Trump supporters more on this thread if they actually did condemn the scary fringe more. When I mentioned an act of far right terrorism, Chrisnumbers jumped straight in with a "what about Isis?" (btw, I do condemn Isis).

squishysquirmy · 24/11/2016 09:45

Sorry posted too soon: The above is a list of things that the Alt-Right and Trump do which are not new ideas.

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