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claig · 12/11/2016 08:30

Another Trump thread for those who want to discuss what it all means

Article from another thread

"History Tells Us What Will Happen Next With Brexit And Trump"

www.huffingtonpost.com/tobias-stone/history-tells-us-what-will-brexit-trump_b_11179774.html?

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Lweji · 24/11/2016 15:16

do joint space stuff

They already are.

claig · 24/11/2016 15:12

'What kind of business deals with Russia? I'm curious.'

I don't know the ins and outs of what Trump will do, but I do think he will normalise relations and get on with Russia and do joint space stuff and trade etc instead of war. He is a businessman, he likes business, not war. He is not a "career politician" and he wants the best for the American people, and other people across the world, just as he wants an end to teh suffering of the Syrian people that the elites allowed to go on for 6 years.

"TRUMP: I think going in was a terrible, terrible mistake. Syria, we have to solve that problem because we are going to just keep fighting, fighting forever. I have a different view on Syria than everybody else. Well, not everybody else, but then a lot of people. I had to listen to [Senator] Lindsey Graham, who, give me a break. I had to listen to Lindsey Graham talk about, you know, attacking Syria and attacking, you know, and it’s like you’re now attacking Russia, you’re attacking Iran, you’re attacking. And what are we getting? We’re getting — and what are we getting? And I have some very definitive, I have some very strong ideas on Syria. I think what’s happened is a horrible, horrible thing. To look at the deaths, and I’m not just talking deaths on our side, which are horrible, but the deaths — I mean you look at these cities, Arthur, where they’re totally, they’re rubble, massive areas, and they say two people were injured. No, thousands of people have died. O.K. And I think it’s a shame. And ideally we can get — do something with Syria. I spoke to Putin, as you know, he called me, essentially …"

www.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/us/politics/trump-new-york-times-interview-transcript.html?_r=0

It is a new world. Trump is not a "career politician", he wants to end pointless suffering and destruction. He is not "bought and paid for" and no elites control him, so all the crap will be over because Trump has the power to stop it very quickly indeed.

Let's wait and see how the media teams report when he solves all the crap that has been going on for years. They won't give him any credit, the teams will call him a "fascist", but the people will see what liars the teams all are.

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Lweji · 24/11/2016 15:07

Trump said "we are led by very, very stupid people, very, very stupid people".

I think he meant it as a prediction. :)

Lweji · 24/11/2016 15:06

Yeah...

BTW, who are the "people" again?

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/23/trump-tax-plan-cuts-wealthy-low-income-inequality

"Trump's tax plan: massive cuts for the 1% will usher 'era of dynastic wealth'
More than eight million low-income and single-parent families will face sharp tax increases under Donald Trump exacerbating income inequality," experts warn

claig · 24/11/2016 15:05

PacificDogwod, Trump said "we are led by very, very stupid people, very, very stupid people".

Well those days are over. Trump is now in charge and just watch how fast things get sorted out.

World leaders have all been watching the Trump youtube video where he said it and they all saw how the biggest media onslaught ever seen against a political candidate failed and that the elite and all their teams were powerless against Trump and the people, and they won't want their own people to realise that they are led by "very, very stupid people" too, so they will get smart and go along with Trump very fast.

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Lweji · 24/11/2016 15:02

What kind of business deals with Russia? I'm curious.

GlassCircles · 24/11/2016 15:01

Unless... Trump is planning on becoming a Russian media star? Now that would make it all make sense.

claig · 24/11/2016 15:00

'How will he get Russia to pay for whatever?'

Because Trump will offer to end the necons warmongering against Russia. He will do business deals with Russia and end any incipient Cold War that th ebankers wanted to resurrect. Russia will do whatever Trump wants because Trump will do business with them and normalise relations with them.

'How? Will Trump get every single american to call until whoever is on the other side is fed up?'

The other side is not stupid. One phone call will be enough. Just the mention of the two words "Donald Trump" is on the line will send the into a tizzy.

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PacificDogwod · 24/11/2016 14:58

'Mon now, claig.
Now you really sound like some kind of random phrase generator.

GlassCircles · 24/11/2016 14:57

To clarify, by 'how the elite work' I mean by using military threat.

And you still really haven't explained his magical powers over Putin.

PacificDogwod · 24/11/2016 14:57

The thread that keeps on giving.

Brew

As usual, claig, I cannot really tell whether you believe some, all or nothing of what you are stipulating. Intriguing.
You repeatedly show such a touching belief in Easy Answers, like a child.
V baffling.

claig · 24/11/2016 14:56

'No, still don't get it. How is this any different from how the 'elite' work'

This is a new elite, Trump 2016. The people's revolution. America First, elites in panic, Guardian gobsmacked, Jon Snow in pieces. The Guardian said and they hated to say it

"Donald Trump's victory is nothing short of a revolution"

and for once they got it right.

We are in a new world, the people won.

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Lweji · 24/11/2016 14:54

Maybe a phone call from "Mad Dog" Mattis may liven them up.

How? Will Trump get every single american to call until whoever is on the other side is fed up?

World leaders all heard about Trump's dressing down of the media hacks and shills on Monday which was described by someone who witnessed it as a "f...ing firing squad" and they all immediately instructed their teams to compy with Trump at the earliest opportunity.

Funny, but not likely.

Lweji · 24/11/2016 14:53

Claig, do you really think we are stupid and will get blind by the sand you're throwing our way?

How will he get Russia to pay for whatever? That was the question in relation to your statement. Not NATO countries.
What kind of deal can he make with Russia? What will he offer? There are no free lunches and Putin is not one to give them.

GlassCircles · 24/11/2016 14:52

No, still don't get it. How is this any different from how the 'elite' work, except with added mad?

claig · 24/11/2016 14:52

World leaders all heard about Trump's dressing down of the media hacks and shills on Monday which was described by someone who witnessed it as a "f...ing firing squad" and they all immediately instructed their teams to compy with Trump at the earliest opportunity.

This is not spin, this is not Bliarism, this is Trump 2016.

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claig · 24/11/2016 14:49

'How? If a phone call is not enough?'

Maybe a phone call from "Mad Dog" Mattis may liven them up.

'Trump can't expect everyone else to pay for whatever he wants to do.'

Of course he can. He will be President of the United States and NATO countries wil have to pay 2% and other countries will have to go along with Trump. That is realpolitik. Eveey world leader has been watching the US elections, along with all of us, they have tuned in to all the debates (with translators expalining Trump's humour to them), they have lost faith in teh mainstream media as they saw that all their predictions and spin failed to turn out or work, and they are under no illusion that Trump is not just another "career politician". They know the score.

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GlassCircles · 24/11/2016 14:46

A phonecall or two will be enough.

You still haven't explained why it will be enough. Will he be employing Paul McKenna?

Lweji · 24/11/2016 14:40

You're going in circles.

Then Trump will sort them out.

How? If a phone call is not enough?

He will probably do a deal with Putin and the Russians will pay for it. As Trump says, it is expensive sorting the world's problems out.

YOU are having a laugh.
Trump can't expect everyone else to pay for whatever he wants to do.

Kaija · 24/11/2016 14:39

"He won't need to send soldiers. A phonecall or two will be enough. He will probably do a deal with Putin and the Russians will pay for it. As Trump says, it is expensive sorting the world's problems out."

My daddy's bigger than your daddy.

And Putin, of course, is where all this begins and ends.

claig · 24/11/2016 14:37

'I thought the point of Trump was that he was going to stop sending soldiers to war and let the world sort its own problems out?'

He won't need to send soldiers. A phonecall or two will be enough. He will probably do a deal with Putin and the Russians will pay for it. As Trump says, it is expensive sorting the world's problems out.

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GlassCircles · 24/11/2016 14:35

I thought the point of Trump was that he was going to stop sending soldiers to war and let the world sort its own problems out? Or is he just going to nuke everybody who doesn't 'obey'?

GlassCircles · 24/11/2016 14:31

Let's hope no one ever risks it to find out.

That right there is the flaw in your theory.

claig · 24/11/2016 14:30

'What if they are even madder?'

Then Trump will sort them out.

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claig · 24/11/2016 14:29

'and if they stood up to him?'

Are you having a laugh?

'what happens next?'

Let's hope no one ever risks it to find out.

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