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Alcohol deaths= tens of thousands every year, Cannabis deaths = 0. Discuss

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user1478625507 · 08/11/2016 17:46

Weed chills, alcohol kills

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user1478625507 · 08/11/2016 18:15

ihatethecold I'm not clueless, alcohol ruined my life, but if I was objective I would admit that the vast majority of people who drink have no problems with alcohol, same thing with cannabis. 9% of pot smokers are addicts, compared to 12% of drinkers. Statistics show that alcohol is objectively worse.

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user1478625507 · 08/11/2016 18:14

thenewaveragebear1983 But would you say to the sucess stories in the numerous US states where cannabis is now legal, taxed and regulated like alcohol. Sorry to sound callous but the people who's lives have been ruined by cannabis are like 0.1% of users, it distorts the overall picture. If I only gained knowledge about alcohol from shows like "Louis Theroux: drinking to oblivion", I would hardly have a positive opinion about ethanol either.

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ihatethecold · 08/11/2016 18:13

Your just fucking clueless op.

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user1478625507 · 08/11/2016 18:10

Hereforthebeer No, I guess you assumed that from the provocative title.

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Hereforthebeer · 08/11/2016 18:09

Are you stoned?

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user1478625507 · 08/11/2016 18:08

pugsake For every life ruined by cannabis there are thousands ruined by alcohol. It is my opinion that alcohol is one of the worst drugs out there, a hard drug in the same category as heroin and cocaine. You wouldn't judge a parent who had a couple of glasses of wine every now and again, same thing except alcohol is worse. Would you judge a parent with severe chronic pain who finds marijuana is the only thing that helps? My life has personally been destroyed by alcohol, except that's fine of course because it's legal.

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 08/11/2016 18:07

I've worked in the prison service for many years. I 've seen men of all ages suffering the social, economic and physical effects of their 'harmless' smoke, not to mention their families and children growing up while their daddies and mummies, but I worked in a men's prison do their sentences. Any psychoactive substance will ultimately cause some harm to someone who uses it, and it may not be til much later in life that the true impact on your mental health is realised.
Fwiw, I believe in zero tolerance for supply of all drugs. I believe drug addiction is a social disease that should be treated as such and not punished.
Alcohol wouldn't be^^ legal most likely if it was 'invented' now. Look at the 'legal high' fiasco, which incidentally is far more prevalent in the prison system than either drugs or alcohol, and question whether legalising something makes it safe.
If you take your brain and put it somewhere else, repeatedly, whether it's legally or not, one day it might just not come back in one piece.

BratFarrarsPony · 08/11/2016 18:07

Look user, this is really not the place for this debate. Very few people will agree with you, and those that might,, are not going to stick their heads over the parapet, out of respect for those whose children/relatives have had mental health problems from smoking weed.

Besides if you have only tried it once, then I guess you do not know many stoners, so you would not know its long term effects.

LouisvilleLlama · 08/11/2016 18:07

Whilst we've been socialised that alcohol is ok in moderation, which people don't follow and still suffer from, doesn't mean we have to let other potentially harmful substances freely available to the public. Is a bit infantile of approach " but hey they're able to do that!"

InTheDessert · 08/11/2016 18:06

Cannabis and alcohol both destroy lives.

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user1478625507 · 08/11/2016 18:04

No, cannabis is not harmless, but it is overall much less harmful than alcohol, and both are well known to cause mental health problems such as anxiety, depression, psychosis (mainly by withdrawal in the case of alcohol) e.t.c.

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pugsake · 08/11/2016 18:02

Cannabis can cause mental health problems in young people especially men.

It's the reason DD is not allowed to see her dad.

It's not "cool" it's a shitty horrible drug that can ruin lives.

I have zero respect for "parents" who smoke it while in charge of their children. I actually massively judge them.

HTH

LouisvilleLlama · 08/11/2016 18:02

ihate psychosis same as my aunt. But hey you can't overdose!

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user1478625507 · 08/11/2016 18:01

ihatethecold I used to be an alcoholic and tried to commit suicide many times under its influence. By that logic, alcohol should be banned

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user1478625507 · 08/11/2016 17:59

ineedamoreadultieradult If you want to stop horrific crimes caused by drug dealers, the solution is to legalise. I sympathise with your friend but the cause of his death was not cannabis. I absolutely believe anyone driving under the influence of anything should be thrown in jail and be banned from driving for life

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LouisvilleLlama · 08/11/2016 17:59

It might not kill directly but it fucked my aunt up mentally and then she went on to harder stuff, and she is now dead, her MH was fine before.

Also "discuss" fuck off with that shit

Pointeshoes · 08/11/2016 17:59

Discuss?

Nah your alright thanks

qwom · 08/11/2016 17:59

My ex was a stoner. He beat me to a pulp whilst 'high', I truly believed he would kill me.

Wonder how many other people have been killed by someone under the influence somehow - eg driving under the influence....

ihatethecold · 08/11/2016 17:58

My son developed drug induced psychosis through cannabis use.
He tried to kill himself 4 times this year.

You just sound like an ill advised knob!!

BratFarrarsPony · 08/11/2016 17:58

" Same culture basically, just divide the figure by 6 "

oh yes very scientific....Grin

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user1478625507 · 08/11/2016 17:57

BratFarrarsPony Lol believe it or not I've only ever tried it once. Incidentally this will make DM readers' heads explode: www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/marijuana-mum-smokes-bong-makes-7461436.

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user1478625507 · 08/11/2016 17:56

Ostrobogulous Yeah I tried to get either global figures or UK figures, but I think it illustrates the point. Same culture basically, just divide the figure by 6

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fakenamefornow · 08/11/2016 17:55

Hold on 3.3 million, isn't that about 5% of the population? Are you saying 1 person in 20 is dieing every year from alcohol consumption?

ineedamoreadultieradult · 08/11/2016 17:55

I have a friend that was stabbed to death over a cannabis debt. I have a work colleague whose son was killed in a car crash caused by a driver under the influence of cannabis. I am not going to "discuss' as I am not sitting my GCSEs but both alcohol and cannabis can have devastating affects.

Ostrobogulous · 08/11/2016 17:54

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