US Election - last couple of days.

If you want to get a view on what the active democrats...many on the ground and really up to date polls are you could look at Democratic Underground
They seem pretty positive atm

www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1251

Hi Thunder - nice to hear things from a NZ perspective.

We're all holding our breath over here (don't know anyone who supports Trump). You'll have to give us the reaction from there to the results as they come in.

There's nothing more to say about Trump, but I've heard several sources say that Hillary is disliked when she's running for office, but begin to warm to her once she's in and people can see what she's about.

I put it all down to mysogyny!

I hate going to bed - I'd rather stay up and trawl all the politics sites, but it's time to call it a day.

Not long now!

I'm in New Zealand so we will start getting results mid-late afternoon here, at least we don't have to pull all nighters like you Brits and my work will be pretty generous in letting us check results throughout the day.

I'm no fan of either, aside from anyone is better than Trump. I do want Hilary to win because at least she has experience in running a country and economists here are warning that our NZ economy could go into meltdown if Trump gets in as we rely so much on Free Trade. And I can imagine the pound will surge as well. It would be a complete nightmare on all world markets :(

living in denial

I think we should forget about the election and just concentrate on the pigs

They were lovely kitten

I think they had just dozed off

I might try and stay up for a bit on election night

But i will deffo watch the last leg on wednesday

I thought it would be close in the referendum but that remain would just win

I am not putting a bet on the election

Thanks kitten

I am clinging on to the hope that the pig race on the last leg was right and that Clinton will win

And i honestly do sympathise with those who feel they cannot vote for Clinton

Ah but 538 has some real issues this year. Very spiky model that is having a lot of vocals. Sam Wang doesn't play to the crowd too much as he has a day job and it's not a click bait sie (no adverts ). There are others referenced on his site too

I think she will win. I thought we would leave. But I unlike Sam wang I know no nowt re USA elections apart from degree level analysis.

Thanks, Showme.

Here's more comfort from 538.com.

Fear not my lovelis. Sanity can be kept if you read Princetons Sam Wang. No emotion just maths (that I don't understand) and reasoning that I do. Try him out. Will help you sleep

election.princeton.edu/

Gosh, that SNL skit was great. Seeing Alec Baldwin break character was a shock.

lljk. Are you saying that the results are declared before they are counted?

This explains; basically the outcome can be declared in US elections if the validated counts are already definitive & the absentee votes aren't enough (in number) to change the outcome. The absentee ballots still get counted, for a final official result, but sometimes not finished for days after the election actually happened. To cut the workload, the absentee ballots may get counted early (but obviously only if they arrive in time) & those prelim results released. The minor elections & propositions get hurt a lot by the early release of results. Suppose you mostly care about mayor of your town & no other race. You hear from exit polls that your candidate is winning easily. So You don't go bother to vote at all... for your state representatives or city measures or whatever.

It's not like in Britain where the votes all have to be counted on the night not starting a second before 10pm when polls closed, & then during the (very public) count there is constant checksumming to make sure the totals are exactly same as what went into the boxes.

When I counted ballots this yr, btw, we had one group of ballots that my table couldn't make match. Sum of spoilt+Leave+Remain kept equalling 1 different from the number that went into the box. This was like 1601 vs. 1600. After at least 3 counts we were told the result was good enough. There must be some rule about what tiny error margin is permissible for the results on the night.

This election has been rigged as far as i am concerned

I really try and be polite on these threads, i dont judge, everyone is entitled to their opinion and people have all sorts of very valid reasons for the way they vote, people are not stupid for voting in a certain way

Until the last few days i absolutely believed the above

But i am a bit fed up of this whole thing

I have no problem with anyone who says they wouldnt vote for clinton due to her policies

But

Voting for Trump makes you a complete plonker in my book

In fact it makes me think that trump voters are all sorts of unmentionables...and i am desperately trying to cling on to my manners here

Which would make everyone who knows me laugh themselves silly as i am usually an opinionated, foul mouthed bitch

This should work:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37877607

The consensus about the latest FBI news seems to be that, regardless of what they are now saying, 'FBI' and 'investigation into Clinton' is all the voters hear. They've not done Hillary any favours today.

Great news

But i think its too late kitten

I think its disgusting what the FBI have done this close to the election