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Did the BBC Lie?

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otex · 05/11/2016 11:51

It certainly seems so

bbcpanoramasavingsyriaschildren.wordpress.com/ bit.ly/2bx7v0b
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claig · 05/11/2016 14:52

'Not for every vote the government might lose'

Of course not for every vote such as the pasty tax. But when it comes to war and military strikes, then the BBC follows Establishment policy which is a necessary thing in wars like World War II etc

DoctorDonnaNoble · 05/11/2016 14:49

Claig - it wouldn't. Unless you believe everyone is a misogynistic, homophobic racist.

DoctorDonnaNoble · 05/11/2016 14:48

Of course as a state funded institution it is subject to government control in an emergency. You know, like during the Second World War. Not for every vote the government might lose. The clue is in the fact that whoever is in government complains the BBC is too far the other way to them. Individual problems have had issues but this is a load of tosh akin to Kubrick directing the moon landings.

claig · 05/11/2016 14:47

'Do you mean that they report on what Trump and Farage have actually said?'

No because that would help Farage and Trump to win an election. The purpose of their reports is the exact opposite.

FloodMud · 05/11/2016 14:46

Do you mean that they report on what Trump and Farage have actually said?

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otex · 05/11/2016 14:46

The BBC is the state broadcaster and as such is liable to be subverted by the security services as and when necessary. *

If you take the time to watch the presentation and read the links above you will see there is, to say the very least, something seriously wrong with Ian Pannell's report.

Furthermore, it appears that one of the actor/volunteers has inadvertently identified herself:
bit.ly/1tFth3F
bit.ly/1O5l4O1

  • Seumas Milne, Labour's Executive Director of Strategy and Communications, has written:

"There is no point in romanticizing a BBC golden age. The corporation was always an establishment institution, deeply embedded in the security state and subject to direct government control in an emergency…[with] around 40 percent of the staff… vetted by MI5."

www.theguardian.com/books/2015/feb/27/seumas-milne-on-pinkoes-and-traitors-by-jean-seaton-review-my-father-the-bbc-and-a-very-british-coup

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DoctorDonnaNoble · 05/11/2016 14:42

*half

DoctorDonnaNoble · 05/11/2016 14:42

I'm sorry Claig but you don't have spout a load of conspiracy nonsense.

claig · 05/11/2016 14:41

The other channels are usually the same, but the BBC is by far the most important and prestigious channel which is believed to be impartial by the majority of the public, therefore BBC reports are the ones that have most clout whenever an imortant vote is about to take place.

If Farage is about to do well in an election, BBC report pops up to slow him down. If Trump is about to win, BBC has something about Hitler, the 1930s and Trump. Same old.

FloodMud · 05/11/2016 14:37

Just the BBC? Not the other channels?

claig · 05/11/2016 14:33

Rebels were losing. Bombing would have turned the tide, set Assad back and would have helped the Jihadis.

claig · 05/11/2016 14:30

'What vested interest did the BBC have in bombing?'

Establishment policy was to push for bombing. BBC pops up with reports at times of important votes.

FloodMud · 05/11/2016 14:28

Sounds like conspira-bollocks to me. What vested interest did the BBC have in bombing?

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otex · 05/11/2016 14:22

Maybe I should have called the thread "Did BBC personnel collude in the fabrication of an atrocity, using actors/volunteers and UK military injury simulation techniques, which was then broadcast on the night of the 29 August 2013 UK Commons vote on Syrian intervention, in order to sway public opinion in favour of bombing Damascus" - I think that's only happened once. Wink

For me, it's the total fabrication of the hospital scenes (see from 30:38 here vimeo.com/140567469) which marks this out as historically unique.

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claig · 05/11/2016 14:02

Did the bear shit in the woods?

'Did' sounds like it happened only once.