Trump vs Clinton Round 3. Probably the biggest debate ever.

Did you miss out Sheriff Clarke

Black people can be arseholes too. Who knew?:

fourmummy the effectiveness of homeopathy is very very much easier to disprove than the existence of God. Scientists have disproved the living shit out of the effectiveness of homeopathy (which certainly can and does provoke side-effects by the way).

Propose a testable theory and the scientific method can help you. Propose there is an all seeing all caring God watching over your every move, but for some reason not stoping babies dying from cancer and we are left without a testable hypothesis...so out of the frame for the scientific method....

We would be bad scientists to go after something as false when the hypothesis is non-existent!

That would be the rapist Mike Tyson endorsing Trump?

No surprises there.

Trump is Pink.

Sorry to correct you there, but he's clearly orange. A whole different species.
Trust me, I'm a biologist.

As for Hillary being nasty, it's typical sexist talk. He wouldn't have said a male opponent was nasty for saying the same things she was saying about him.

Having said that, it was him, again, projecting. He does it a lot. It's funny.

pastel, I think the point is that it is that it is ludicrous to suggest the fact that someone is related to someone famous lends any weight to their views. Every famous person has a few deadlegs in the family tree, and that is clearly true of this branch of the King family.

It is also irrelevant that Alveda King is a black person endorsing Trump. There are millions of black people who absolutely don't, and frankly they include an awful lot of people whose views are infinitely more worthy of respect.

But then you'd have to mention the number of lives saved by conventional health care

sorry to digress this reminds me of a story that has enraged me in the press right now about the Morcombe Bay " Musketeers". A group of Mw who led a "Turf War" agaisnt other medics at Furness Hospital in the pursuit of a Natural Birth at all costs. 11 people - women and babies have died needlessly and possibly more. All at the altar of a brain washed ideology of natural birth.

'Am in despair and wish everyone would think like me so we can save the world

just trying to wade through last few pages some really interesting posts on both sides

I suppose bottom line is that faith helps some people feel better - the folk who have faith

does it make the ISIS faith folks feel better when they are chopping off heads and hands? Or Saudi folks when they are subjugating women - making them live their lives under a black covering, repressing people, same in Iran, etc.

I know what you mean but I dont buy it.

Why on earth should we care that Martin Luther King's niece endorses Trump?

I dont know why we should care I am a newbie in all this but all I have heard of Trump he is is racist
So this endorsement jumped out at me because she is black and related to the greatest supporter of black rights ever and he - Trump is Pink.

You cant compare Churchill and EDL in same way because usually same colour. Its the race element.

Garry Kasparov on Putin/Trump:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/donald-trump-reminds-me-of-vladimir-putin--and-that-is-terrifying/2016/07/23/36397692-50e5-11e6-a7d8-13d06b37f256story.html?utmm_term=.618c03691460

Trump on Putin:
“He said nice things about me.”

So, no concern about Putin's atrocities in Syria, his genocide in Chechnya, or of internal oppression in Russia - locking up or murdering his opponents.

Yet another illustration of Trump's ego.
Also shows what qualities he admires in a strong leader.

The hashtag #nastywoman may be taking off.

I enjoyed this riposte from Clinton in the debate:
“There’s only one of us on this stage who’s actually shipped jobs to Mexico !”

Trumo just sounds like the most evil side of the "elite"

Supermum Is it also impossible to build in your area unless you make your workers do 15-18 hr shifts daily, avoid providing basic safety equipment and pay them $5 per hr ?
Or is that just good business practice now ?

Kaija I had the same thoughts the other way round - it's interestingly predictable. I would say it speaks to independent thought but I'm sure you'd say something different same here

How is religion different to homeopathy

How is any strict adherence to any ideology people attach themselves too different? If your brought up in any household with severe adherence to anything be it - religion, or anything - it will taint your world view - as you were

Bigchoc You can't build a damn thing in this area without being connected to the mob. I want to build another layer on my house. I need to go to the zoning board and need a lawyer to do it. Only one lawyer operates in town. If you want quick inspections you are looking at hiring one of two contractors, both of which are 'established Italian families'.

Of course Trump has had dealings with the mob. Everyone who has done anything from fix the facade of their home, repave their driveway or have an adjustment go through the zoning board has.

no - where did I say that? are you reading a different thread?

So, if you or your family suffer broken bones, heart disease, cancer etc you'll be toddling along to your local homeopath then, not the nhs ?

www.bmj.com/content/329/7462/369

extract:
About 850 000 medical errors occur in NHS hospitals every year, resulting in 40 000 deaths.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/heal-our-hospitals/10178296/13000-died-needlessly-at-14-worst-NHS-trusts.html

Wiki

Globally, it is estimated that 142,000 people died in 2013 from adverse effects of medical treatment; this is an increase from 94,000 in 1990.[1] However, a 2016 study of the number of deaths that were a result of medical error in the U.S. placed the yearly death rate in the U.S. alone at 251,454 deaths, which suggests that the 2013 global estimation may not be accurate.[2][3]