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Trump vs Clinton Round 3. Probably the biggest debate ever.

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claig · 16/10/2016 13:57

Oct 20th 2 am UK time.

Last chance for the Establishment to stop the Trump surge in the polls.
World leaders will be watching, Establishments will be tuning in on the edge of their seats in trepidation.

People will be laughing, diving into the popcorn and knocking back the alcohol.

Round 3. Rock'n'roll.

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claig · 16/10/2016 15:14

'Claig do you think there will be civil war in America if Hitlery wins?'

No, I don't think so. The country is split, but it has been before with Bush and Gore etc. The rule of law will be upheld. But I think Trump will win, I don't think the Establishment are going to be able to pull it off.

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RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 16/10/2016 15:14

If i was kathy shelton i would be unhappy with the justice system

But HC did not attack her

She did her job as defence lawyer and she did not laugh at her

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claig · 16/10/2016 15:11

'didn't I quote you seymour hersh myself? '

Yes, thanks.

Worth reading everything that Seymour Hersh has written. Top journalist. General Mike Flynn knows it all because he was head of the Defense Intelligence Agency. He backs Trump, advises him and speaks at Trump rallies etc.

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RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 16/10/2016 15:11

Ffs can we stop with the woman does her job

Laughs over the stupidity of polygraph tests being believed when the client is obviously guilty...which is fucking laughable by the way

And is therefore lambasted for the rest of her natural life

Its fucking boring now

I am happy to listen about anything else people want to slag her off about but thus one is getting tiresome

SadTed · 16/10/2016 15:10

Claig do you think there will be civil war in America if Hitlery wins?

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claig · 16/10/2016 15:09

This is what Kathy Shelton, the woman who was raped at 12 years old, has said and tweeted

"Rape Victim: Hillary Clinton Laughed At Me And Blamed Me For Getting Raped"

thefederalist.com/2016/10/11/rape-victim-hillary-clinton-laughed-blamed-getting-raped/

Kathy Shelton ‎@KathyShelton_

I may be Hillary Clinton’s 1st female victim. She ruined my life; defended my rapist & blamed me. I was 12 yrs old. Then she laughed at me.

1:01 AM - 10 Oct 2016

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ArgyMargy · 16/10/2016 15:09

You're so funny claig.

Is the Establishment the same as the Elites to which you have endlessly referred? Who are these people?

I guess you probably think that "no-one has more respect for women" than the Trumpster. And that Hillary's on drugs and if Donald loses it will have been a massive Establishment/Elites conspiracy funded by ISIS or some such shit.

WinchesterWoman · 16/10/2016 15:08

ps thanks claig Flynn was a name I knew but not really that much about him
didn't I quote you seymour hersh myself?

anyway thanks
fourmummy i agree

SadTed · 16/10/2016 15:07

Thanks for your condescending tone, it's sooo Hillary Hmm In fact is that really you???

I've listened to entire 80s interview with Roy Reed, thank you. So you know where to stick your smarmy HTH.

HTH.

Smile
WinchesterWoman · 16/10/2016 15:07

yes sure Hillary, I can see how that was a hilarious situation, along with the idea that it was a miscarriage of justice so he only got a year for fondling just too much yknow my stomach is actually hurting right now

HillaryFTW · 16/10/2016 14:59

SadTed

The context of Hillary laughing was her laughing at the uselessness of lie detector tests, as her client passed one. She was not laughing at the victim.

HTH

Gumpendorf · 16/10/2016 14:58

Trump didn't enter the race for his ego as the Establishment and its media pretend. He is 70 years old, rich as Croesus and has a great life and is not a "career politician".

Your mistake is 1. To believe he is as rich as he says. 2. To ascribe rationality to his thought processes.

This is all about his ego. Did you watch the 2nd debate? He had no empathy with the audience at all. He doesn't relate to people. It's about Trump, Trump and Trump.

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claig · 16/10/2016 14:51

Trump entered the race to clean the system up, end the corruption, jail the crooks, and smash the globalists. He said the other day, now that the "shackles are off"

"Hillary Clinton is a vessel of the corrupt global establishment which is raiding our country"

Calling Hillary Clinton a vessel for "corrupt" global establishment, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has said the election of his Democratic rival would make the US a corrupt "Banana Republic" controlled by donors and foreign governments.

"The Hillary Clinton documents released by WikiLeaks make more clear than ever just how much is at stake in this election. This election will determine whether we remain a free country, or we become a corrupt Banana Republic controlled by large donors and foreign governments," Trump said

www.business-standard.com/article/international/hillary-clinton-vessel-for-corrupt-global-establishment-donald-trump-116101200326_1.html

Trump didn't enter the race for his ego as the Establishment and its media pretend. He is 70 years old, rich as Croesus and has a great life and is not a "career politician". He entered this race to save America, beat the globalists and end the corruption, as Mocic Crowley said so that "it will be game over" for them.

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claig · 16/10/2016 14:41

'Who are they? Do you have names?'

Three star General Michael Flynn, former head of the Defence Intelligence Agency (military intelligence) the DIA.

Read the excellent Seymour Hersh articles in the London Review of Books and elsewhere to understand what is really going on in Syria and to see that Mike Flynn, former head of the DIA, knows all about it.

Lookup Mike Flynn speaking to our own Oxbridge Mehdi Hassan on youtube to see what Mike Flynn, former Head of the DIA, knows about it all.

He was a potential VP pick for Trump, but in the end Trump chose a Republican Establishment politician, Mike Pence, instead, possibly because he had to bring the Republican hierarchy with him and because he needs a politician who understands how Cspitol Hill works rather than a military man.

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fourmummy · 16/10/2016 14:38

From the last thread:

WW You said, " I myself would ask Claig how, if Trump is 'not clued up on policies' is he going to move ahead..."

It's actually not that difficult. Let's look at some items from the statistics list:

79 million adults are not in the workplace.
Participation rate is at 63%, close to all time lows.
U6 measure of unemployment at 10%.
50 million Americans on food stamps.
25% of American kids living in poverty.
45 million Americans living in poverty.

You don't need to be an award-winning mathematician to work out that Hillary's open borders, uncontrolled immigration and possible continued spending on foreign wars will not alleviate any of the above. Trump's (or anyone's, for that matter) controlled borders, controlled migration and a focus on domestic-level job creation, will. Just before Brexit, some posters on MN spent quite a few hours arguing that an Oxford University study, stating that an influx of immigrants into an area reduces waiting times in A & E departments, was correct, without any seeming awareness of the nonsensical nature of this. There seems to be quite a bit of Emperor's New Clothes going on here, as there was with GE and Brexit. People aren't stupid. They may not be well educated or they may lack analytical sophistication, but they can see what's going on. We'll know on the 28th of November Grin

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 16/10/2016 14:34

Trump is a shit businessman Shock

He hasnt managed to solve that problem

WinchesterWoman · 16/10/2016 14:33
Grin

imma take the oath and get me a presidency mysen some day

score

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 16/10/2016 14:32

winchester i am not even speaking to you...you got the last word on the last thread Angry

Grin
WinchesterWoman · 16/10/2016 14:30

'Trump has some key advisers who have told him what is really going on in Syria and Trump listens to them. '

Who are they? Do you have names?

Zuleika - ssshhhh

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claig · 16/10/2016 14:29

'Trump gets on with everyone?! I've heard it all now.'

That is why Hillary and Bill Clinto went to his wedding. Now he is ending the Establishment's game so they are all against him, but after he wins, they will have to fall in line.

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claig · 16/10/2016 14:26

'I'm glad you acknowledge that Trump has put forward no plans '

Trump doesn't yet know the detail, but he is a businessman, he will solve whatever arises. It is just like our political class, the Remoaners, who want to stall Brexit by saying that the Leave Campaign did not present "a plan" about what would hapen after Brexit. They don't know, they will negotiate and solve whatever needs to be done.

There won't be a world war with Trump. Trump is for peace, for getting on with Putin, not for the no-fly zones that some of our political class, some of the 172 and the Fabian socialists would like in Syria.

As Jill Stein, Presidential candidate for the Greens, said Hillary is more dangerous than Trump for peace.

"They want to start World War III over Syria. Give me a break," Trump said at the State Fairgrounds in Oklahoma City."

thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/255052-trump-gop-rivals-want-to-start-world-war-iii-over-syria

"Green party's Stein Hillary Clinto with nukes, much scarier than DonaldTrump"

www.breitbart.com/video/2016/10/12/green-partys-stein-hillary-clinton-with-nukes-much-scarier-than-donald-trump/

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ImperialBlether · 16/10/2016 14:26

Trump gets on with everyone?! I've heard it all now.

SadTed · 16/10/2016 14:25

Nope Hillary is unhinged, what kinda sick bastard gets a paedo of the hook for the rape of a 12 year old girl and laughs about it! Angry

SadTed · 16/10/2016 14:23
Gumpendorf · 16/10/2016 14:21

No one has ever seen anything like it ' (from previous thread)

Nope, they haven't and I admire your optimism, claig. But Trump is unhinged, and all the 'taking down the establishment on behalf of the people' is bullshit. It's all about Trump and you only have to listen to him for a few minutes to recognise he cares about no-thing but his ego.

Trump is going into free fall because he is being beaten by a late middle aged woman. For Trump, that would be the ultimate insult.