Trump vs Clinton Round 3. Probably the biggest debate ever.

I guess If I had to describe myself in two words, it would be a 'green idealist'.

Just reading yours kitten.

Yes it has turned from loathing to dislike. That's what I was trying to make clear. What do you like about Hillary Clinton?

I really really dislike Clinton as I've said several times before on this thread. I just dislike her less than I do Trump.
The main thing for me with this presidency is that we don't end up with the world going up in smoke. A sadly low bar.

:) for me my important things are pretty idealistic but there's nothing wrong to work towards idealism if you temper it with realism.

All people are equal. (we can still disagree with them, hate what they do, but their worth is the same, people are people.)
climate change is having a real impact and will continue to do so.
Freedom of the internet and press I agree :) (with the caveat that a crime is a crime no matter where it happens)

It's quite hard to boil it down to a few sentences isn't it. There's a myriad of ideas and that stem from those few thoughts, but they are my main drivers I can think of. Plus my faith, I can reconcile my faith with my science and mathematical background comfortably because one fundamentally tells me who I am, while the other helps me interpret the world.

apologies if that isn't written entirely coherently. My head is full of snot and I fear it may explode over my tablet. That would be a relief frankly.

Clinton made it clear in the last debate that that would be an important plank of her policies - she was much stronger on that than I've heard from any President or presidential candidate before. By contrast, Trump makes it so clear that he views women's rights as wholly unimportant. You may loathe Clinton, but how can you possibly support Trump?

Interesting use of language there, WW - loathing Trump has apparently turned to mere dislike. What is there about the revelations of his attitude towards women and ethnic minorities and his proposed foreign policy that disposes you more in this favour?

What are you hoping to get with clinton, kitten?

Women's rights being subsumed by religious and trans agenda.

Clintons hawkish foreign policy positions.

Abortion is an 'anti' trump issue that does not have the same impact as it did: i worried about pence but now I don't think the impact on women's rights will be anywhere near clintons impact on women's rights.

Freedom of the press and the Internet.

Just for a few.

What are yours?

ok, apart from a strong interest in immigration, what else is important to you? We both were on a thread where we were having minor collywobbles about Russia. So avoiding www3 is presumably fairly important to you? what else?

Immigration reform in the US is about increasing legal migration as a means of decreasing illegal migration. This is what she's voted for. Did you not know that.

Kitten I've said nothing about closing borders.

Its not odd at all. It is what it says on the tin. Loathe Clinton, loathe what she stands for. Loathed trump, like what he stands for. Now loathe Clinton and her supporters more than before. Dislike trump but like his movement even more.

Cowardly smear.

WW apart from closing the borders, what else is important to you?

votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/55463/hillary-clinton/40/immigration#.WAsd9L3OXqA

And let's say that I keep a healthy sceptic mind about pps here.
It is odd that you claimed you were on the fence, but effectively have been posting rabidly against Clinton.

Come on lweji that is a serious accusation. Put up or shut up. It is cowardly to smear and run away.

Are you? Because I will report you in a heartbeat.

Are you a man or a mouse. Do you think that's what I am?

Obviously I don't deny those people exist. They would be silly not to.

Are you accusing me of being a paid propagandist?

Once upon a time, a certain government set up a department with people instructed to go on online discussion sites, and assume the character of normal posters from different countries, while, at the same time, posting indoctrinating messages in favour of that country or their stooges, as if that was the opinion of a normal person and not a state paid agent.

How's that for a conspiracy theory?

By the way WaPo does not back Donald Trump. And by the way that's a massive understatement.

I don't thing her voting record is in your side. Why did you bring that up. (Still interested in my secret motives)

Believes not believed. Did you answer the motives question.

And maybe you want your facts other than from a Trump backing side.
Look at her voting record. Surely that's not made up.

Yes she will pursue an open borders agenda. She passionately believed in it. It's not a campaign position: it's one of her principles.

How much do you want to bet that after 8 years of government, Hillary won't have anything remotely looking like open borders?

Are you actually convinced she will open US borders? Or make entry to the US significantly easier?

Even Obama didn't.