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What happens if Trump wins?

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Soapalert · 31/07/2016 07:28

I know the comments Trump has made about blocking Muslims from the USA, and building a wall between the states and Mexico. But what will the world look like if he becomes president? People seem to be afraid of his success and suggest we 'should push the button now' or that he will be assassinated. Surely he comments are to stir up media interest?

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SwedishEdith · 05/08/2016 15:11

Please don't mention Eddie Izzard. He was partially responsible for sinking Cameron's chances in the Referendum.

I actually agree with claig Shock. His appearance on Question Time was one of the car crash moments of the campaign.

TheDowagerCuntess · 05/08/2016 15:11

Trump will win

Except he won't Grin

TheDowagerCuntess · 05/08/2016 15:09

That's a call to arms from MM - I hope it works.

SalemsLott · 05/08/2016 15:08

Well that was an epic fail Hmm

SalemsLott · 05/08/2016 15:07

Michael Moore and his Trump will win theory:
michaelmoore.com > trumpwillwin

TheDowagerCuntess · 05/08/2016 15:05

The thing both Brexit and Trump have in common is that they're being won (Trump hasn't won; I mean in terms of winning supporters) on the basis of saying whatever the hell you want, but with absolutely no 'how' to back it up ... and then jumping ship when they win, and have to actually deliver.

And the anti-intellectuals / hard of thinking lap it up.

Who knew it was so easy? Why politicians haven't been doing this for years is quite a surprise.

Lweji · 05/08/2016 14:59

"“I believe in a way she is more dangerous,” Sarandon suggested without mentioning Trump’s name, after Chariton asked her why Clinton’s foreign policy went largely unchallenged during the Democratic primary."

Not that Susan is a political expert or guru. She just gets the news inches for her views. Like Trump.

claig · 05/08/2016 14:58

'If we're going to start quoting entertainers, we can all have lots of fun.'

Please don't mention Eddie Izzard. He was partially responsible for sinking Cameron's chances in the Referendum.

TheDowagerCuntess · 05/08/2016 14:56

There is nothing 'common sense' about Trump. Confused He doesn't know how to do anything he says he will do. But as I said upthread, this doesn't matter to his supporters.

And he tells as many lies - if not more - as the next nominee/candidate. Everything he says is a lie suggestion. He's admitted as much himself.

But again, his supporters don't care, so it doesn't matter.

Sarandon is not a Trump supporter - she says so in that link, so what does it matter?

Threesoundslikealot · 05/08/2016 14:56

Susan Sarandon is of course an actress, so may not be an expert arbiter on US foreign policy. If we're going to start quoting entertainers, we can all have lots of fun.

claig · 05/08/2016 14:54

'She didn't say Trump was better.'

Sorry, I misremembered, she said Hillary was "more dangerous" than Trump.

"Susan Sarandon: Hillary Clinton “more dangerous” than Donald Trump"

www.salon.com/2016/06/03/susan_sarandon_hillary_clinton_more_dangerous_than_donald_trump/

Threesoundslikealot · 05/08/2016 14:52

Trump 'already a danger to national security'.

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57a485afe4b03ba68011fd6c

Lweji · 05/08/2016 14:51

"Presidents Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were impeached by the U.S. House of Representatives, but acquitted by the Senate. Richard Nixon resigned before he could be impeached."

claig · 05/08/2016 14:49

This is what the Trump phenomenon is all about and that is why the media and Establishment have nothing to stop him apart from yelling racist at him, but they will lose because as with Brexit, the people are in anti-establishment mood and don't fall for the lies of the teams any more.

"In ‘Brexit’ and Trump, a Populist Farewell to Laissez-Faire Capitalism

Donald J. Trump and Boris Johnson: Is this how the era ushered in by Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher finally ends?

It once looked as though the financial crisis of 2008 might even bring about the end of laissez-faire economics. “The idea of an all-powerful market which is always right is finished,” declared Nicolas Sarkozy, then the president of France. And Peer Steinbrück, Germany’s finance minister at the time, predicted that “the U.S. will lose its status as the superpower of the world financial system.”

Even Alan Greenspan, the former Fed chairman, once known as the “maestro” of capitalism, declared himself “in a state of shocked disbelief” at the collapse wrought by the unfettered markets he had championed throughout his life. “I’ve found a flaw,” he said. “I’ve been very distressed by that fact.”

But I suspect few would have guessed that the economic order built on Reagan’s and Thatcher’s common faith in unfettered global markets (and largely accepted by their more liberal successors Bill Clinton and Tony Blair) would be brought down by right-wing populists riding the anger of a working class that has been cast aside in the globalized economy that the two leaders trumpeted 40 years ago."

www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/business/economy/the-anger-wave-that-may-just-wipe-out-laissez-faire-economics.html?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

And that is why even some Bernie voters prefer Trump to Hillary, because we are witnessing the end of the Establishment's globalist laissez-faire capitalism and returning to common sense for the benefit of the people.

SpecialAgentFreyPie · 05/08/2016 14:49

Has a president ever been impeached before? I'm kinda hoping at least one has, because then there is a precedent to impeach Trump.

I secretly hope he's just playing the business genius and appealing to the lowest common denominator so he can get votes, and actually has zero intention of doing anything he claims.

A girl can dream...

Lweji · 05/08/2016 14:48

She didn't say Trump was better.

“Really,” Sarandon said, adding that “some people feel that Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately if he gets in, things will really explode.”

TheDowagerCuntess · 05/08/2016 14:47

There are plenty of working Americans - Union members even (i.e. the antithesis of the 'establishment') - who understandably don't trust Trump one iota. Admittedly, the ones with a couple of brain cells to rub together.

It's not just the liberal elite / establishment who want nothing to do with him.

Threesoundslikealot · 05/08/2016 14:47

Yes, she endorsed Trump. Hmm

Anyway, latest poll of Bernie Supporters show 91% of them favouring Hillary over Trump. Only 3% of them plan to vote Trump.

Lweji · 05/08/2016 14:45

Susan Sarandon: ‘LOL that I would ever vote Trump’

Saying that Trump would bring revolution is hardly a compliment towards him. It expresses how lots of people would be extremely dissatisfied.

claig · 05/08/2016 14:37

'Sarandon is voting Klein, not Trump.'

Yes, she won't vote for Hillary and she said Trump is better than Hillary because then there will be a revolution against him.

Threesoundslikealot · 05/08/2016 14:35

Sarandon is voting Klein, not Trump.

Well, it's down up nicely isn't it? Voters who reject Hillary are doing so because she's a dreadful candidate. Voters who reject Trump are just the Establishment or hoodwinked by it.

Lots of misogynism across the board, including in the Bernie campaign sadly.

TheDowagerCuntess · 05/08/2016 14:24

Great!

claig · 05/08/2016 14:22

TheDowagerCuntess,, that letter against Trump is from "The Harvard Republican Club". That is a bit like quoting from the Oxbridge Establishment insiders club. They are mainly all against Trump because they are Establishment.

Lots of Republican politicians and RINOs will bail out and back Hillary instead of Trump because they are Establishment.

TheDowagerCuntess · 05/08/2016 14:22

And there are all sorts of reasons people (including Reoublicans) are not voting Trump.

Luckily, he seems to add to these every time he opens his cake hole.

claig · 05/08/2016 14:19

'I heard that the Bernie supporters who are voting for Trump aren't doing it because they think he's any good; they're doing it to spite Hillary because they hate her. '

Some are doing it for that, but what the Democrats fear is that many of the blue-collar working class Bernie supporters will vote for Trump because they agree with him on trade and jobs.

Susan Sarandon said that Trump is better than Hillary because Trump will bring on a revolution (against him). So there are all sorts of reasons that people are not voting Hillary.

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