What happens if Trump wins?

I didn't mean just NYC, the guys in his office are from all over. We were surprised that Trump's bid was really being taken so seriously by so many people.

Why would anyone hero worship someone who has fights with crying babies and the families of dead soldiers, and can't understand what the problem with using the nuclear option might be? Surely a point arises when any sane person thinks "There is no way this man should come anywhere near any seat of power, he is bloody dangerous"?

Although Trump has strong support in New York, the polls show it's pretty much a safe state for Clinton.
The key will be the swing states.
The winner takes all state delegates, so Trump support in New York is irrelevant, unless he could win there.

*discussing!

My DH was in NYC in January and he was duscussing Trump with the guys in the office, he has a lot more support over there then you'd think.

I think he could win, he absolutely shouldn't but he's preying on the fears of middle america and they're lapping it up. I expect he'll do over there what Farage has done here; bail out once he realises he's bitten off more than he can chew.

And the Purple Heart that "he had always wanted". He's mocking the servicemen, while conveniently having escaped active duty. He's doing a great job of trying to alienate everyone.

Actually I saw an excellent tweet last night.

Trump: "Obama was the worst president in history" (or whatever he said)

Reply: "Well you had a fight with a baby yesterday"

Yeah, the kicking the baby thing out was weird. Because he started off saying he didn't mind the baby crying, he liked the baby. Then two mins later said "she thought I was serious that I liked a baby crying when I'm speaking". Nasty piece of work.

But then, the way he attacked the Khans was far worse - he's a belligerent man who just cannot leave it. Which means he should on no account be allowed to be president.

And he's kicking babies out too, in the most asshole way that he can. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/02/trump-crying-baby-get-out-of-here

To be fair, he's hardly fit to run a business, considering his track record.
These days he seems to sell his brand name to whatever and con people out of their money.

And has Obama ever looked so deadly serious as when he said "Trump is not fit for office" ?

Because he really, really isn't. I mean half the Republican party are freaking out over this now.

Populism is making the people believe that they have a voice, it's pandering to the disenfranchised, the angry powerless and the ranter doon the pub - and then, once in power, doing whatever one jolly well pleases.

As Goodwin's Law has alread been invoked on this thread I won't bother pointing out the historical parallels.

I can admit that a black person could hate Obama. But not on a vague soldiers are puppets basis.

A lot of coverage on Twitter about how Trump asked three times during a security briefing as to why nuclear weapons couldn't be used :(

He's terrifying and unstable, the American people need to put a stop to him or it'll be ww3 before the end of his term

of course it is possible you are besties with Clarence Thomas visiting a remote part of the UK for a bit of a holiday ... although that is very unfair when I think of it - I doubt even he would say he "hated" President Obama.

The black person who made the hate comment said nothing about racism.
Unfortunately your ignorance and narrow mindedness Did.
Shame that's how low you can go.

I don't believe that for one moment. Not one. Report my post if you like but that is a lie - that a black american came over to the UK and told you that he/she "hated" Obama. you are lying.

Mind you as I wrote it I did think "bet she will say she is black or her friend is black"

Populism is about handing decision making over to the people

Sadly, not.

Populism emerges throughout history whenever the leites are too remote and out of touch with the people and therefore begin to implement stupid policies that serve their own interest and not the people's.

That is why Cobyn has emerged, that is why Farage and Trump emerged. The 172, Lord Kinnock, Blair and all the rest have put their hopes behind a non-entity called Owen Smith whom they hope will defeat the populist Corbyn who attracts thousands of people to his rallies (because he is in touch with the people) while the near enough the only people who attend Owen Smith rallies are the elite, the BBC, and some Oxbridge graduates being groomed for high office by the Establishment.

Corbyn will beat them because we are in populist times because the servants of the elites (the MPs) are out of touch with the people.

It is the same in America. The Republican Establishment are servants of the banks and globalists and their job is to try and stop Trump and "advise" him how to run his campaign. But Trump is a ntaural populist, in tune with the people, so the last thing he needs is Establishment "advice". He will beat them, just as Corbyn will, just as the Brexiters did because they are and were all populists against an out of touch elite and their servants.

No, that is a misunderstanding of populism. Populism is about handing decision making over to the people rather than the elites who tell the people that they know best, so a Brexit referendum is an example of direct democracy populism.

Populism is the idea that the people have common sense, unlike the "bought and paid for" elites who are merely servants of money and power, and that that is why the people should decide. Populism can be of the left or right, so the battle between Corbyn and the 172 Establishmentarians is a battle of the people versus the puppets and is an example of left wing populism versus the servants of the elite.

Very interesting, indeed.

BTW,
Historians, Finchelstein says, agree on a few core traits typical to populists: They use democratic ideals to legitimize a non-democratic style of leadership that delegates all power to them; they divide society into two camps, “the people” and “the elites”; they are proud anti-intellectualists; they reject culture and knowledge in favor of instinct; they promote polarization and demonize their opponents (in a recent example, Trump called Clinton “the devil”); they undermine judiciary, military, and political powers; and they antagonize the free press.

I mentioned it on another thread, claig. Is this what you mean by populist, which you constantly use? Because that's the common definition of populism...

Interesting article

'how will you fill your time when this election if over?!'

When Trump wins, things will only get more interesting as Trump has the Establishment on the run.

RINO = Republican in name only (i.e. the Establishment ones)

claig, how will you fill your time when this election if over?!

'RINO' - I just learnt something from you

Even George Dubya apparently thinks Trump is a fruitcake. That's quite the achievement.

Laura Ingraham tweet. Everbody knows their game.

"Laura Ingraham ‏@IngrahamAngle · 2h2 hours ago

Clintons, Bushes, Buffett, Bloomberg..this alliance shdnt surprise anyone who has followed politics closely over the past 15yrs. #USA"