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Angela Eagle's broken "office window" is actually on the communal hallway...

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LowDudgeon · 16/07/2016 14:31

So they stuck a Labour poster over it to make it look like hers

All the images used were taken from an angle that didn't show the staircase.

They just keep getting caught out, don't they. John McDonnell's comment might have been inappropriate but he wasn't wrong Grin

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LowDudgeon · 24/07/2016 23:21

You believe what? That Angela Eagle has had vile messages on social media? I didn't say she hasn't.

But it's indisputable that the brick didn't go through her office window, the Luton meeting wasn't cancelled due to threats against her, she wasn't subject to homophobic abuse at a local CLP meeting as claimed by Tessa Jowell, & the local police didn't tell her to cancel surgeries.

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UnexpectedBaggage · 24/07/2016 13:40

I believe her as well. I also believe Seema Malhotra.

Momentum are just rehashing what Militant did. Misogynists and bullies.

AllThePrettySeahorses · 24/07/2016 13:32

Ah, right, Corbynites are all lovely.

Well forgive me but when I have seen an MP intimidated by Momemtum supporters at a CLP meeting, when I have seen the vile, vile messages on Angela Eagle's facebook page and when I have been called Blairite Scum, a troll and had my intelligence level mocked for believing stories and statistics in what now seems to be called the MSM as opposed to some tinfoil hat blog, I really do beg to differ.

Angela Eagle - I believe you.

bookworm14 · 24/07/2016 13:28

This ludicrous conspiracy-theorising perfectly illustrates why the Labour Party is doomed (and I say this as a party member). Corbyn has allowed this conspiracist mentality to flourish. It is utterly ludicrous to suggest that Angela Eagle, a decent, hard-working MP, would fabricate threats against her.

UnexpectedBaggage · 24/07/2016 13:25

Labour have no chance of victory with Jezza and his cronies in charge. I'm lifelong Labour but I won't vote Labour again until he's gone. He gives me the creeps, frankly, as do those around him.

And the activities of Momentum are very like Militant of the 1970s. Bullying and intimidation happening at a local level, so I guess it's the same all over.

tilder · 24/07/2016 13:20

Quite, RiverTam. Members come before anyone else though, don't forget. Appealing to the masses would be far too distastefulHmm.

Deeply unpopular opinion, but Blair did get one thing right at least. How to get a party into power after, what was it, 18 years? Without power, it's all just wind.

I also love the way the media is biased just because someone doesn't agree with what is being said. Doesn't stop it being true. Whatever, it does look from an outside perspective that there is something deeply unpleasant about a proportion of Corbyn supporters. Apparently it's only democracy if it's their sort of democracy.

thecatfromjapan · 24/07/2016 13:16

I'm guessing the purpose of this thread is to disseminate an excuse - it doesn't have to be strong, just 'present' - to allow the pro-Corbynites to turn a blind eye.

We saw that strategy used by the Kipperati.

It's effective.

RiverTam · 24/07/2016 13:10

JC has been a dissident MP his entire life. Why does he think MPs are going to behave any differently from how he has for his whole career? He's getting a tase of his own medicine and he doesn't like it, boo hoo.

Any again, his popularity with members doesn't equate to popularity with voters who far outnumber members and are thus considerably more important. Not that they or JC want to hear that.

GlassCircles · 24/07/2016 13:05

Corbyn is welcoming each of the 172 back into the fold and calling for unity and an end to their sniping.

If he behaved with more professionalism - and less like the Messiah-in-Waiting - maybe he'd have more success with his media image.

And of course he's going to try and get the MPs back on side, he's stuffed without them. He's left with dodgy McDonnell and the excruciatingly irritating Abbott - not a good and voter-friendly place to be.

LowDudgeon · 23/07/2016 12:13

The militant hard left are a terribly convenient scapegoat for any & all unpleasantness

Even when an anti-Semitic email turns out to be from - surprise! - a neo-Nazi, for instance

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HappydaysArehere · 23/07/2016 10:47

Yes the militant hard left are misjudged, maligned pussy cats. ahh, what a shame.

claig · 22/07/2016 21:59

The 172 and the Establishment media are accusing Corbyn of being "devious", a "bully", "useless" etc, and Corbyn is welcoming each of the 172 back into the fold and calling for unity and an end to their sniping.

'The sniping has to stop': Jeremy Corbyn calls for unity among Labour MPs

Addressing the parliamentary Labour party, the leader called for dissident MPs to end the ‘back-biting and public attacks’

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/07/jeremy-corbyn-unity-labour-mps-parliamentary-party

No wonder Corbyn has more popularity among members than the 172.

claig · 22/07/2016 21:38

'And since when did having a quiet speaking voice mean someone can't be a bully? '

I agree with that, but it looks to me like Corbyn is being bullied, not the other way round. The bloke is acting like a saint to the insults and accusations of the 172.

'If he actually gave a shit about the general public he would do something to address his dire relationship with the media. But he doesn't.'

There is nothing he can do. The Establishment and the 172 want Corbyn out and the media is doing the job of trying to turn the public against him. But it is beginning to seem so transparent, that the whizzkids behind it (probably the same ones behind Project Fear over Brexit) are losing the public's trust over this. Corbyn gives interviews in a park with constituents hugging him, he asks for hugs and gets them, and he catches "Krabby" and says his morning's work is not in vain, and the Establishment's finest teams tell us he is still a bully and will always be one. It just doesn't compute. This is starting to look the best and the brightest using Project Fear all over again in utter desperation.

'We caught Krabby': Labour in crisis, but a relaxed Jeremy Corbyn plays Pokémon Go in park

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/17/labour-in-crisis-and-a-relaxed-jeremy-corbyn-plays-pokemon-go-in/

The end result of the best and brightests' attempts to fool the people, is that the people will end up liking Corbyn more and think that the Establishment's finest are "bullying" him.

RiverTam · 22/07/2016 21:24

Farage is a racist, and a facist and xenophobic. You loving the shit out of him doesn't change that, claig. And since when did having a quiet speaking voice mean someone can't be a bully? What a load of twaddle.

And if the media is hostile (and I'll agree it's certainly biased) why the fuck isn't Corbyn doing something about it? Because most if the general public aren't members of his fan club so they'll believe it. If he actually gave a shit about the general public he would do something to address his dire relationship with the media. But he doesn't.

claig · 22/07/2016 21:18

Not only are we being told that Corbyn supporters are "bullies", but now the media is trying to get us to believe that soft-spoken socialist Corbyn himself is a a bully.

This is exactly what the Establishment media did to Farage when they portrayed him as a "racist", and now they are telling us that Corbyn is a "bully".

LowDudgeon · 22/07/2016 20:51

Some interesting opinions here about the alleged thuggery

Granted they're mostly from medium & the canary & Craig Murray but I reckon they're at least as valid as the original accusations.

& Conor McGinn's bullying thing today about Corbyn ringing his dad is just risible. Some of the Twitter responses are wonderful

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eatsleephockeyrepeat · 22/07/2016 20:04

Just on the secret ballot issue, some of the legal advice given to Corbyn 's published in full. It indicated disapproval of a secret ballot in the NEC meeting so it's pretty certain he was advised by his lawyers to resist it.

POW123 · 22/07/2016 19:34

Angela Eagle deliberately linked the breaking of a window in the building in which she worked with Corbyn and his supporters. She has not apologised. An MP who cannot recognise her own window? There are standards which MPs are supposed to uphold. The complaints of intimidation at Constituency Party Meetings has also been spread around the media and linked to Corbyn. I find it incredible that none of those allegedly intimidated have mobile phones. I expected to see hundreds of examples posted on YouTube. A search using "Labour intimidation" yields plenty of accusations but as far as I can see no evidence. It is far too easy to spread lies and unsubstantiated rumours if the Media is hostile.

BeJayKayven · 16/07/2016 18:49

Serious deflection going on. Reminds me of the Scottish Indy ref where this happened a lot too.

VashtaNerada · 16/07/2016 18:40

I'm a supporter of Corbyn but aware there has been some vile, misogynistic, homophobic abuse aimed at Angela Eagle that is wholly unnacceptable. Corbyn has acknowledged it too and said it's not in his name.

P1nkP0ppy · 16/07/2016 18:37

So that makes it ok does it?
Seriously warped thinking process there op.

bakeoffcake · 16/07/2016 18:32

If Labour party meetings weren't so leaky these days nobody outside would know what was happening in them, at all, let alone as it happens, so who said & did what wouldn't be a massive issue.

So you believe that despite women fearing for their safety they should shut the fuck up?!

SwedishEdith · 16/07/2016 18:24

If Labour party meetings weren't so leaky these days nobody outside would know what was happening in them, at all, let alone as it happens, so who said & did what wouldn't be a massive issue.

Thank god they are the.

OhStacey · 16/07/2016 18:23

Ha brilliant. Oh ok it was the wrong window so that's ok!!

Keep justifying it but corbynites are some weird cult of personality!!

LowDudgeon · 16/07/2016 18:21

plenty on here (both ways)

Secret ballots aren't the norm at NEC meetings apparently. If Labour party meetings weren't so leaky these days nobody outside would know what was happening in them, at all, let alone as it happens, so who said & did what wouldn't be a massive issue.

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