Well done Labour NEC - Corbyn can stand

Also it is easy for Corbyn's campaign to complain about MSM bias but for example, Channel 4 apparently have tried to get people on for days. All refusing. If they are having trouble I'm sure others are too.

So if 1/4 of Corbyn articles are negative that surely means 3/4 are positive, no? But the point is is - what is Corbyn doing about it? Apart from whinging and saying poor me, meany right-wing media? Because that's not going to help get his message to the wider audience, is it?

Anti-semitic? Really because she is Jewish? If she was black they would still campaign against her because she supports Corbyn - with your argument they would then be racist. Simplistic way of looking at the world

Oh and I actually seen intimidation with my own eyes - not from the comfort of my armchair. Are you OK about Momentums sorry Jeremy for Leader ltd set up?

There is such a double standard operating with regards to Corbyn. Concerted attempt to stop prominent pro-Corbyn Jewish woman from being elected to the NEC by anti-Corbyn supporters but this is not treated as anti-semitic? The fact that media bias against Corbyn shown to be at unprecedented level compared with other leaders in LSE study - 1/4 of Corbyn-related articles 'scathing, disingenuous, insulting or mocking' and when his views were reported they were taken out of context, people can talk about 'knifing him in the front' ...If these were Corbyn supporters they would have been completely demolished and accused of anti-semitism, misogyny, violence, but ok if they're used by critics of Corbyn. Bullying and intimidation needs to be challenged everywhere, not used to exploit an agenda to oust a legitimately elected leader. I'm shocked (and depressed) at the lack of critical awareness of how the media has been reporting on Corbyn.

I raise you this one Claig:

Momentum is now 'Jeremy for Labour ltd' Not quite as catchy. I didn't get the memo

www.buzzfeed.com/jamesball/inside-the-complex-snarl-of-companies-which-control-the-pro?utm_term=.tq71L1ly1#.opWrLrOzr

Yes how much money does Momentum have? Where does it get it's money? No published accounts for the COMPANY with ONE DIRECTOR that is Momentum

They've tried to create something similar to Momentum with Saving Labour - difference is, it's garnering no where near the popular support.

Maybe because it doesn't have a very very rich backer like Momentum does.

It isn't a movement - read the whole post

I just remembered the mysoginists and anti-semites will be going when the party splits - they are in the main Pro-Corbyn and Corbyn himself ofcourse

Oh and please take the mysoginists and anti-semites when you split the party - I don't want them associated with mine

The most frustrating thing about pro Corbyn views is the belief that the PLP and people like me should shut up and fall in line

It will not happen. All the election will do is split the party. Corbyn will insist he has a mandate. The PLP will still not be able to support him and the party will split. You will keep the hard left and armchair Corbynites. The members that are moderate, right and a lot of the left will go with the PLP

What will you achieve?

The mass movement against corbyn is called the British electorate. This movement doesn't think politics is a game. They think it is about people's lives.

No savinglabour doesn't have meetings. Has no rallies. Has no figurehead. Has no shadow donations. Has no marketing director. Isn't pretending anyone is a messiah figure. It isn't a cult - there I have said the 'c' word

There is no mass movement of moderates against Corbyn - but there are an awful lot of us. They are silent and scared.

Oh and btw a populist movement doesn't mean it is a good thing - look at UKIP, EDL etc

There is no organised mass movement against Corbyn the PLP has not created one at the grass roots level - it just isn't there. They've tried to create something similar to Momentum with Saving Labour - difference is, it's garnering no where near the popular support.

I'm not doubting bullying by some Corbyn supporters but this has become a whole new trope with which to attack him. It's taken hold and completely misses the point about what he stands for and completely ignores what his critics are doing. My point about my own experience was that the opposite was true for me and I'm sure there's a lot more going on to silence Corbyn's supporters outside and also within the PLP but this is not going to be reported because it doesn't fit the right wing narrative.

If people are interested read about the events at the Brighton and Hove AGM
www.theargus.co.uk/news/14621420.Brighton_and_Hove_Labour_party_suspended_and_election_results_annulled/

and the Bristol West AGM
www.bristol247.com/channel/news-comment/daily/politics/claims-of-bullying-at-toxic-labour-agm

I am saying I have seen specific instances of bullying and intimidation from Momentum/pro Corbyn members.

There is no equivalent of Momentum against Corbyn (and hardly anyone is a member of progress btw especially not me). There is no organised mass movement against Corbyn the PLP has not created one at the grass roots level - it just isn't there. There are some individuals like me speaking up that's it. So if there has been any 'anti-corbyn' bullying it is not organised, not part of a 'movement'

I think the comments about bullying have also been grossly exaggerated

Unless you are at each event you can't possibly know.

I think we get in to dangerous ground when we start down that road.

So are you saying there's no bullying from the anti-Corbyn side?

I am an LP and Momentum member - I have seen the bullying and intimidation by Corbyn supporters and the social media splaining of any anti-momntum or Corbyn stories

It is there. It is rife. People are scared to speak up. I saw people scared to vote. When the party splits the armchair activists will have a very hard job getting any candidates into seats. But as apparently that's no important I guess that wont matter

Thank you, houseofpain. I'm a Momentum member and have never had any truck with the hard left, antisemitism, violent protest or destruction of property. And I've never met a Corbyn supporter who thought these things were anything other than totally abhorrent. I don't recognise the picture that is being painted of us.

I find the whole thing amazing. All these new supporters and the PLP instead of embracing this completely misinterprets this new support. I know quite a few JC supporters and I can tell you none of them belong to any left militant groups, none of them have been out to destroy the LP. They were all excited by someone finally addressing issues that others were being weak on. I think the comments about bullying have also been grossly exaggerated. I went to a local LP meeting and encountered the opposite: quite vicious LP members being really nasty (only 2 - but nothing from the JC supporters). There was an immediate mistrust and it's really sad as instead of seeing this as an opportunity, they were quick to try and push out any JC support. Other party mbers were thankfully more tolerant but it is a worry. How on earth will they harness this new support? I can't see Smith doing it (claims he's on the left but has supported Progress). People in politics don't suddenly change.

Imagine how the Tories must cackle with laughter when they read conversations such as this. Look at us - now we're in dispute about theatre architecture, fgs!! This is why people vote Tory, isn't it?

Surely it's obvious that:

1. The Lowry is a very large theatre (bigger than the National Theatre and most West End theatres, in fact);

1. It was almost full at the Corbyn rally.

Am I missing something?