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Well done Labour NEC - Corbyn can stand

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claig · 12/07/2016 20:02

They have voted 18-14 to allow Corbyn to stand in the leadership election.

One less stitch-up in a season os stitch-ups.

Go Corbyn!

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claig · 13/07/2016 21:45

'Jeremy Corbyn is most popular among voters from all parties, poll suggests

Labour leadership candidate as popular with Ukip voters as Labour voters, Survation finds, and is top in London, according to separate poll'

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/14/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leadership-most-popular-candidate-voters-all-parties

If Corbyn ends his belief in open door immigration, then he will beat Theresa May, in my opinion.

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claig · 13/07/2016 21:41

'Of course you like Corbyn - but not enough to vote for him'

I voted for Blair in 1997, I could easily vote for Corbyn if he offers good stuff. But, Corbyn is very important for all of our politics, even if we don't vote for him because he represents the voice of ordinary people against the Establishment stitchups. With Corbyn, we get one step closer to PR voting and that will be better for all of us.

I prefer Corbyn to Douglas Carswell.

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flowersandsunshine · 13/07/2016 20:03

I won't be voting Labour if Corbyn wins. Could never vote for a party with him at the helm. I hope he loses but not holding my breath.

Claig - stop bigging up Corbyn when we all know you're a UKIP voter. Of course you like Corbyn - but not enough to vote for him. Don't pretend to speak for Labour voters.

LazyCake · 13/07/2016 19:51

Corbyn has been serially disloyal to the PLP. Yes, Corbyn voted against the Iraq War, student fees and other similarly terrible proposals. That's why he continues to command mass support.

lljkk · 13/07/2016 19:23

Corbyn has been serially disloyal to the PLP. Over decades. They owe him NOTHING in return.

MiaowJario · 13/07/2016 18:41

Pretty disgusted by how the PLP has comported itself lately. And disenfranchising so many members is such an underhand trick.

That said I can see the UK going down a Spanish route on the left and centre left- two parties not one. It could be a way to reengage people who are really disillusioned with politics.

LazyCake · 13/07/2016 18:33

Can someone also please point me in the direction of evidence that momentum is a band of thugs that are the equivalent of a left wing Britain First/EDL? They seem quite normal people from what I've seen, teachers, parents etc

Yes, I think they are pretty normal. I am a member of Momentum, also a SAHM and former primary school teacher. Far from plotting violent insurrection, I spend a good deal of my time posting on the Style and Beauty section of MN! Blush I went to the Parliament Square demonstration, which rebel MPs claimed was intimidatory, and it seemed a pretty low-key, good natured affair.

Obviously, the loon who threw a brick at Angela Eagle's office should be arrested and prosecuted. I don't think anyone would disagree with that - least of all Corbyn who, according to the rebels is if anything TOO nice, gentle, peaceable, etc.

It does concern me though that all the fear and trembling is a rather cynical attempt to close down legitimate discussion. These people occupy some of the most powerful positions in our society and must be held to account.

Or are they now so out of touch that they are, really and truly terrified of their own grassroots? I'm not sure which would be worse!?

FeckArseIndustries · 13/07/2016 18:30

As a life long labour voter I will never vote for them while he's in charge. All we will get is another term of Tory rule from headmistress May
Well it's YOUR fault then if we do! "He's unelectable" "No, we love the guy" "well I'M not voting for him, so we'll have the tories instead".

I joined the Labour party so I could vote for him. If someone like Angela Eagle gets in, you might as well let the tories in, it's the same kind of thing. Corbyn is offering something a bit different and a lot better.

GoblinLittleOwl · 13/07/2016 17:55

I have just listened to Johanna Baxter, a member of Labour's National Executive Committee, speaking on the World at One in a state of great distress following the meeting held yesterday to determine whether or not Corbyn should be allowed on the ballot paper in the membership challenge. Her words: ' he (Corbyn) is failing to protect party officials against bullying and intimidation'; apparently members have been threatened with legal action, had personal details posted online and received threats of violence, yet he voted against the proposal for a secret ballot, which would protect them from this sort of abuse.

I fail to see how anyone can consider this man as remotely suitable to lead a political party when his election engenders this sort of behaviour, and he does nothing to stop it. The Labour party was never, ever like this before.

Marigold76 · 13/07/2016 17:37

I am pleased. He may not be everyone's cup of tea, but who is? But he's the current leader and ultimately it would have been wrong to have kept him off the ballot when the rules seemed pretty clear to me. (Accepting of course that this situation is unprecedented!) What I think the PLP have underestimated (along with a shit-load of other things) is that there are those of us who would have reasonably accepted a straightforward leadership challenge and voted accordingly for the best candidate. But this entire pantomime has been conducted purely because they are afraid he will win another contest. Instead of a fair fight and an acceptance that this is what the majority of the party want, they have tried to force him to resign- this was so underhand and vulgar.

It erodes any trust I have in them that they have my best interests or the interests of the communities I live and work in, at heart.

Can someone also please point me in the direction of evidence that momentum is a band of thugs that are the equivalent of a left wing Britain First/EDL? They seem quite normal people from what I've seen, teachers, parents etc and I've not seen any calls for aggression or divisive, angry social media from them? Accusing them of bricking AE's office seems very unfair and libellous?

suit2845321oie · 13/07/2016 12:59

Disaster. As a life long labour voter I will never vote for them while he's in charge. All we will get is another term of Tory rule from headmistress May

BungoWomble · 13/07/2016 12:56

Corbyn has brought a whiff of substance to British politics which we badly needed. I am incredibly disgusted with MPs of all parties who have used the referendum as an opportunity to play power games instead of actually, you know, running the country. They've made us all an international laughing stock, and are running more and more of us 6feet under the ground. These backbiting self-serving scum need to be stopped. I don't know how it will work going forwards, but with no other alternative to Eagle's self-adulation I'd vote for Corbyn again if they let me.

drwitch · 13/07/2016 11:05

The voting rules just don't make sense though. - I can see a logic in only letting people that have been members for some time vote (like you have to be a member for a year to stand as a candidate) but this logic is contradicted by allowing registered supporters to sign up in the two day window.

LazyCake · 13/07/2016 01:48

It's so wrong to exclude members who were explicitly promised the right to vote in leadership elections when they signed up and started paying their subs. Here's what was promised to the 100,000 disenfranchised members. The text is still up on the Labour Party website, in fact:

'As a member, you’ll be a key part of the team. You’ll be eligible to vote in leadership elections, you can help shape party policy, you can attend local meetings and you can even stand as a candidate.'

As for the £25 fee to circumvent all this nonsense, wtf?! It's democracy for those who can afford it. Benefits claimants, the low-waged, single parents, students - keep out. Your views are not welcome.

stonecircle · 13/07/2016 00:53

I'm disappointed! Having joined the Labour Party this week for the express purpose of voting against Corbyn.

Anyone can talk about tackling poverty, improving the NHS etc. But it's all froth - does he ever actually spell out what his policies are for achieving these things?

HirplesWithHaggis · 13/07/2016 00:45

Any comments on the NEC decision to disenfranchise over 100,000 Labour party members?

jellybeans · 13/07/2016 00:45

I am voting Corbyn again and am disgusted by the actions of the coup. Every other member I know (lots) are also voting Corbyn.

BeJayKayven · 13/07/2016 00:30

I am 😀

lordStrange · 13/07/2016 00:19

I'm not sure it is such great news for the tories Smile

FeckArseIndustries · 13/07/2016 00:09

Yay! The MPs need to wind their neck in when he's voted in again, like they should have the first time, bunch of self-serving arses.

Jermajesty · 13/07/2016 00:03

As a Labour Party member I am utterly disgusted that the PLP are disregarding what we voted for just nine months ago. This is yet another example of the contempt most MPs seem to feel for the electorate they apparently serve. What they fail to recognise is that in Corbyn we see a politician we can actually trust, instead of the usual self-serving, patronising bunch of arseholes we are generally presented with. Go Corbyn.

BeJayKayven · 13/07/2016 00:00

Great news for the tories!

lordStrange · 12/07/2016 23:54

I vote for Corbyn.

I am sick of the lies and smokescreens of nearly every single politician I see on telly. I no longer believe any of them.

Corbyn has become a natural and impressive speaker.

LazyCake · 12/07/2016 22:28

Corbyn represents democracy. YY to this.

I happen to disagree with some of what Corbyn stands for, but I'll be voting for him as I am sick of being spoken down to and patronised by politicians who think the British electorate can be managed as though it were a foolish and recalcitrant child.

claig · 12/07/2016 22:22

There will be lots of Tories and Kippers and LibDems and of course Labour supporters who have gained great respect for Corbyn in his battle against the 172 because it is a battle for democracy, for the people and the members against the 172 Establishment mouthpieces.

Tricks and scares to try and get us to vote Remain, tricks to get Leadstrom out of the race and not allow the Tory members to vote and on the day when the 172 hoped they could stop Labour members being able to vote for Corbyn, press stories about bricks through windows and linking it to what they call "Corbyn supporters".

Corbyn represents democracy, he represents the people, including non-Labour voters.

Go Corbyn and the Corbynistas.

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