Well done Labour NEC - Corbyn can stand

The media roll Stephen Kinnock out on TV to lecture the Corbynites. They are delusional if they think anyone cares what these Oxbridge teams think. The people have gone way past the Blair spin, the lectures from former Labour PM, Gordon Bennett, the admonishments from Lord Kinnock, Stephen's father, or Margaret Hodge calling the kind, avuncular, allotment tender, Corbyn, "a devious man".

No one saw Brexit coming, no one saw Trump and Sanders coming and no one saw Corbyn coming. But Corbyn is here and he is giving them all a run for their money and it is a real breath of fresh air and offers hope that politics might actually change and work for the people for once.

'Huge difference between membership and Labour voters.'

Labour have a membership of about 500,000, many of them young, enthusiastic idealistic people. The Tories have 150,000 mainly over 60s. Labour is the future, but it won't be with the Hilary Benns, the Chukas, the Angela Eagles etc. They are the past, the same old faces, the same old spin.

''The plotters should be ashamed': Labour voters on why Corbyn should stay – or go'

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/27/the-plotters-should-be-ashamed-labour-voters-on-why-corbyn-should-stay-or-go

My guess is that ordinary Labour voters on the door have as low a regard for Hilary Benn and the 172 as non-Labour voters. If non-Labour voters think Corbyn is a breath of fresh air, what must Labour voters think who have been yearning for the end of spin and Tory-lite austerity and war supporting votes etc.?

'I would love him to be PM but it's delusional to think he ever will be.'

We were told the same about Brexit. they said we could never beat Cameron, the bankers, the IMF, the SNP stooges, the unions and all the rest, and yet the street parties happened and Labour MP Keith Vaz was practically in tears (not tears of joy, unlike the Brexiteers) saying he never believed the British people would do it.

The reason there is a such a hostile media spin campaign against Corbyn is that the Establishment is terrified of him because they think he might win and if he does, he won't do what they tell him. It's a new politics, a grassroots politics, a people's politics and the stooges are left high and stranded. They wanted to keep him off the ballot, they said that "rules is rules".

'Three-quarters of newspaper stories about Jeremy Corbyn fail to accurately report his views, LSE study finds'

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-media-bias-attacks-75-per-cent-three-quarters-fail-to-accurately-report-a7140681.html

It doesn't matter what the chums try, nothing works for them, the public still aren't fooled by it.

'He won because half the Tory party voted for him!'

No, the Blairites did not vote for Corbyn.

And Cameron wants Corbyn to step down, he says "for God sake, man, go". The Tories want a chum from Labour they can deal with, someone who understands the system's wishes and will carry them out. Corbyn is the last person they want in charge because he just won't go along with the phoney scams and spin.

'You do realise with Corbyn as leader Labour will never be in power.'

You are wring. Labour will never back into power with Hillary Benn, Angela Eagle and that shower. The public mood has changed substantially. The public can't take any more spin and no straight answers. They no longer trust the political class which is why the reelled in Brexit against Cameron, the IMF, the bankers, the Labour Party, the SNP stooges and all the rest of the self-serving elites and media spinners.

The public now want an ethical politics that deals with the people's concerns, not the bankers' concerns. That is why Corbyn won a landslide in the Labour leadership election and stunned all the Oxbridge teams when Corbyn started as a 100-1 outsider. The only hope for Labour is for Corbyn to start getting tough with the stooges and to take control of the party in order to present a unified vision to the public in the face of media tricks that try to stop him.

The public have had enough of the spinners and the Establishment cronies and stooges. That is why Corbyn is so popular among the people and so despised among MPs and the media.

Here is Channel 4's Jon Snow

"The Corbyn factor: shocking the political system through sheer normality

90 per cent of Labour MPs did not vote for him, but 59.5 per cent of Labour’s 422,664 voters did. The disconnect between Westminster and British politics writ large.
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I have blogged before about the alienation and disillusion that so many feel from the whole Westminster circus. Corbyn’s record is the antithesis of honours, expenses fiddling, war and austerity. It is those issues that have driven so many to the Corbyn cause. Yvette, Liz, and Andy just could not distance themselves enough from the Blairite past and the Westminster present."

blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/jeremy-corbyn-shocking-political-system-sheer-normality/25745

The Establishment are in pieces, Oxbridge is on overtime, spinners are being sacked; none of them can understand the Corbyn phenomenon, or Farage or Brexit. The world has changed and they have been left behind. The people are in the midst of a popular revolution and the media can't stop it no matter what tricks their best and brightest try.

'I don't think my point about Kosovo has been adequately answered.'

Germany was behind the bustup of Yugoslavia, as Croatia and Slovenia would end up in its orbit and just as in WWII, the Serbs, who were our allies in WWII, ended up being attacked. That was why Tory historian and MP, Alan Clark, was against that war. The objectives of the war were to take former communist Yougoslavia out of the Russian Slav spehere of influence and begin the process of bringing those countries into NATO and the EU, as well as the usual privatisation of industries and banking interests etc. That is what wars are all about. The "humanitarian" stuff is a smokescren and cover that is used to foll the people and which the media are charged with rpromoting. Corbyn understands all of that because he was in charge of "Stop The War".

'And no one has even answered about the IRA...'

On the IRA, Corbyn believes in a united Ireland. He sees it as a leftover from British imperialism. I disagree with him on that, but that is what he and many far left socialists believe.

The "crying woman" has been all over the BBC and media. It adds fuel to the Corbyn "bullies" story.

RhodaBull, excellent point, some people said exactly the same thing to me about that.

Corbyn actually has the potential to win a general election and Corbyn cannot be controlled by all the bigwigs and bankers on earth. That is why the Establishment is desperate to stop him, that is why the media briefs against him.

Corbyn voted against the Iraq War, Angela Eagle voted for it. Corbyn has remained true to his principles throughout his entire career. Corbyn is unlikely to sell out, he isn't after fame or fortune or promotion by bankers and bigwigs; he hasn't gota Faith Foundation or a Charidee, he offers no advice to dictators, his palm is never greased, he only wants to do what he thinks is right and then return to his humble allotment.

Don't forget that Corbyn was in charge of Stop the War. If there is one thing Corbyn really does understand, it is how these wars are run and who benefits from them.

Corbyn gets some things wrong, but he does operate from a more moral base than most politcians. He is not on the board of any companies, he doesn't get cushy professorships or posts where the bankers and bigwigs tell him what to do; he just marches with the unions and tries to stop wars and killings.

'I still don't see how that means sitting back allowing mass killings of Muslims and 'ethnic cleansing' is morally right'

It was a war and there was the usual war propaganda involved. There wer atrocities on all sides. You need to google to find out what really happened. Go to left wing sites like antiwar.com and globalresearch.ca to see what really happened. It is no use following the BBC if you want the truth.