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24 hours to go and I still cannot decide! Help!

34 replies

MTWTFSS · 22/06/2016 07:52

I honestly never thought I would be in this position! It is so difficult!!!

So I do want to remain, but one niggle is driving me crazy. Why are we sending so much money to Europe (8.5bn last year)?

£227bn UK exports to EU, whereas £288bn UK imports from EU... that is a £61bn trade deficit with EU countries.

It just feels like Europe is using us.

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MTWTFSS · 22/06/2016 08:07

Lweji That is true :)

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peggyundercrackers · 22/06/2016 08:07

They are using us. It's not just Greece who has a shit economy, look at Italy, Spain, Portugal etc. Etc. None of these countries are making any money but they are spending like it's going out of fashion. Very soon the piper will need paid and who will they look to to help pay it? The better off countries within the Eu that's who e.g. US. The Euro will implode soon even if we vote to stay because there we too many countries with massive debt who cannot pay it back. Best get out now while the going is good and we aren't liable for their bad management.

Lweji · 22/06/2016 08:03

OP, do you think the export difference will become better if the UK leaves?

Benefiting financially struggling countries can only improve Europe in general. Less migration pressure as local economies grow and more exports to those countries. Less chance of rogue leaders and war or social unrest.

BoxofSnails · 22/06/2016 08:02

Have you read the JK Rowling article? It's brilliant mobile.jkrowling.com/en_GB/timeline/on-monsters-villains-and-the-EU-referendum
But then I have no problem with 0.3% of our annual budget - did you see the graphs last night? - going out and not as much coming back. We should be delighted to find ourselves in such a well off country.

neonrainbow · 22/06/2016 08:01

I'll be voting in because the british government cannot be trusted to look after our best interests.

AStreetcarNamedBob · 22/06/2016 08:00

Of course Europe is using is. We are one of the wealthy countless in a relationship with Romania, Greece, and other similar economies.

If we weren't in Europe now and someone suggested joining they'd be laughed out of parliament.

Give it 10 years and countries like turkey and Egypt will probably have joined. They keep letting in more and more countries that don't bring anything to the party.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 22/06/2016 07:59

I feel Europe is using us too. I think that's been growing and will continue more so.

I think the whole thing will implode and take us down with it. Better to be out now on more if our terms.

I think if we remain we'll be punished for putting them all through this. I think if we remain it'll give the EU the green light to walk all over us. That may be simplistic, but that's how I feel.

Borogoves · 22/06/2016 07:58

For an unbiased viewpoint setting out the facts read this. It certainly made things clearer for me. blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexitvote/2016/05/27/dear-friends-this-is-why-i-will-vote-remain-in-the-referendum/

WellErrr · 22/06/2016 07:55

They are. We give far more than we get, that's why they don't want us to Leave.

Just ask yourself this - if we weren't in the EU now, would you vote to join? I certainly wouldn't.

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