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Is it possible to support the Conservative party while at the same time be a Christian?

87 replies

RainbowintheMagpiesTail · 04/10/2015 15:43

My sister (who life has been very kind to) is a fervent supporter of the Tory's and their policies regarding cuts to welfare but at the same time a devoted follower of Jesus- even goes to Mass every Sunday. In my mind, these two things are irreconcilable. Could someone explain how this is possible?

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Isitmebut · 04/10/2015 19:21

In a multicultural society as a Christian, Hindu, Muslim, or even Klingon, to forgive a socialist political party that could spend a few £trillion in power to build so few homes, leave 1.7 million families (5 million people) in a social housing queue, consign so many of the poorest in society to a mediocre education and a life of benefits/welfare – while having a secret immigration policy and finding 3 million homes and jobs for those abroad?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

Is it possible to have been in an already multicultural Britain and forgive the Labour Party for wasting such a copper £££ bottomed opportunity to improve homes/opportunities for all?

megletthesecond · 04/10/2015 18:24

No.

Supporting the tories and being Christian are polar opposites imo.

blacksunday · 04/10/2015 18:24

Carol-

However, creating a society to enable people to make the most of themselves and not rely on state handouts seems perfectly christian.

In any case, the Tories have nothing against state handouts, so long as it goes to their rich mates, corporations, MPs, Lords, and the 'Queen'.

The only time they have a problem with 'handouts' is when it goes to the needy - which is why they are killing people.

blacksunday · 04/10/2015 18:20

black not sure the main message of most churches is 'love thy neighbour', it appears to be 'kill the homosexual, muslim and jew'.

Churches are not what are in question here. The question was whether it is possible to be 'Christian' - follow the teachings of Christ - and be a Tory.

However, creating a society to enable people to make the most of themselves and not rely on state handouts seems perfectly christian.

First of all, the Tories don't care about helping people 'rely on themselves', as they remove aids for people to do so at every opportunity.

Secondly, no, Christianity is not about 'Self-reliance' at all. That may be an ideology you think is right, but it's not 'Christian'.

Thirdly, during the time of Christ, there was no modern welfare state. In fact, there was no nation-state. Christ did spend his entire adult life helping people and 'handing out' food and aid to poorest, though.

blacksunday · 04/10/2015 18:20

black not sure the main message of most churches is 'love thy neighbour', it appears to be 'kill the homosexual, muslim and jew'.

Churches are not what are in question here. The question was whether it is possible to be 'Christian' - follow the teachings of Christ - and be a Tory.

However, creating a society to enable people to make the most of themselves and not rely on state handouts seems perfectly christian.

First of all, the Tories don't care about helping people 'rely on themselves', as they remove aids for people to do so at every opportunity.

Secondly, no, Christianity is not about 'Self-reliance' at all. That may be an ideology you think is right, but it's not 'Christian'.

Thirdly, during the time of Christ, there was no modern welfare state. In fact, there was no nation-state. Christ did spend his entire adult life helping people and 'handing out' food and aid to poorest, though.

walkingtheplank · 04/10/2015 18:20

Carol decker - how offensive.

I am a Christian and Conservative. I don't see the contradiction. Our congregation is mostly Conservative but there is a range of political opinion. Almost everyone gives to the wider community in some way.

caroldecker · 04/10/2015 18:12

black not sure the main message of most churches is 'love thy neighbour', it appears to be 'kill the homosexual, muslim and jew'.

However, creating a society to enable people to make the most of themselves and not rely on state handouts seems perfectly christian.

blacksunday · 04/10/2015 18:09

No. The main message is to 'Love thy neighbour'.

The message is not to force them to become homeless, starving, or poor or to kill them by removing their essential support.

Jesus walked amongst the poorest, the lepers, prostitutes, and repented criminals.

He taught to care for one another and to always share to help others, which is pretty much the opposite of what Tories do.

www.openbible.info/topics/sharing

www.openbible.info/topics/jesus_and_the_poor

chantico · 04/10/2015 17:50

What's the contradiction?

Isn't the message: Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, but also give up all wordliness and assist the needy?

Wanting Caesar to have a small government is mere detail. Assisting those in need does not have to be done by a specific government programme.

blacksunday · 04/10/2015 17:34

I remember someone trying to tell me that Conservative economic policy is the most in line with Christian principles.

Well, they're wrong.

Puffinella · 04/10/2015 15:49

I remember someone trying to tell me that Conservative economic policy is the most in line with Christian principles. Personally, I don't see how a follower of Christ can support the kinds of policies the Conservatives are implementing, in terms of benefit cuts, cuts to NHS etc.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/10/2015 15:47

Have you seen what Christians have done in the name of their God through history... Supporting the Tories is pretty minor really.

However, I think Jesus would have been a Corbynite Wink