McDonnell's Speech - Barnstormer. Panic in the usual circles

"'President Trump' May Not Be So Far-Fetched - And the Polls Scare the Establishment to Death"

nation.foxnews.com/2015/07/11/president-trump-may-not-be-so-far-fetched-and-polls-scare-establishment-death

Am I bovvered? This is fantastic.

The elite are doing everything they can to stop Trump. They are petrified of teh prospect of him being President. They know their global warming game is over, and just watch the puppets in Europe when Trump takes charge. The people will have the best laugh ever.

"Media thumps Trump, but polls show he's winning big"
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“You put up the CNN poll, you didn’t put up NBC poll and you’re the ones that are paying for the NBC poll,” he told Guthrie. “So I don’t get it, other than that the NBC poll is a very good poll for Trump.”

Trump’s campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, underlined the point in a phone interview with The Hill.

Complaining about “dishonesty in the mainstream media,” Lewandowski noted that, while the results of any individual poll are open to debate, “there has been a clear consistency that indicates Mr. Trump is the definitive front-runner for the Republican nomination.”

As of late Friday, the RealClearPolitics (RCP) average had Trump leading the GOP field by 7.7 points nationally; by exactly 6 points in Iowa; by 15.6 points in New Hampshire, and by 15.3 points in South Carolina.

“If his name wasn’t Trump, the pundits would be saying this race is over,” Lewandowski said. “If the name was Bush — and Jeb is in about sixth place, by the way — and he was getting 28 and 32 percent, it would be all over.”

thehill.com/homenews/campaign/255032-media-thumps-trump-but-polls-show-hes-winning-big

Go The Donald! Go the people!

We are witnessing a worldwide revolution of the people against the elites - here with Corbyn and Farage and in the States with The Donald. They can't stop it. They rolled Gordon Bennett out here when things looked desperate (and they had to be very desperate to use Bennett) but he fell flat on his face.

If Trump wins the nomination, if the Republican elite are powerless to stop him because good decent Conservative American voters refuse to vote for Establishment candidates like Jeb Bush and what Trump calls the "puppets" (in the same way that good decent Labour voters here refused to vote for Cooper, Kendall and Burnham against the advice of the likes of Gordon Bennett) then I have no doubt at all that he will become President and defeat all the politically correct Clintons or even Bidens, if he stands.

'Claig regardless of the bollocks you spout'

If you can identify one piece of bollocks, I will eat my hat.

Why do you think Trump won't win the nomination when the people are behind him and the elite are against him? You are in danger of falling into the Establishment trap of Blair, Kinnock, Chuka and Gordon Bennett who thought that Corbyn would never be leader of their modernised New Labour Party, but New Labour is now dead and buried and Old Labour is back because the people are back.

'Why would they respect a man who's gone bankrupt so many times'

Because Trump is not politically correct, he is fearless, he breaks the rules the Establishment pundits set and everyone knows he means business. They would be stupid not to respect Trump, and although they are spinners and liars, they aren't stupid. That is why the Establishment is in panic over Trump's runaway success. They know if he gets in, then the global warming con is over.

'They don't care about civilians starving, or not getting medication, or dying from diabetes - Russia's got their back.'

Then why did they let Russian aid in?

'Russia doesn't give a shit about the civilians and the civilians know it.'

The Ukrainian government has stopped their pension payments and bomb civilians. Without Russian aid the place would collapse.

'They don't want anyone in Donetsk who threatens their grip on civilians. It's sad. I assume you think that MSF really were distributing psychotropic drugs??'

You have nearly understood why the MSF have been denied entry but it has nothing to do with dugs.

'Please do explain how Trump will stop wealth offshoring when he does it himself???'

Because Trump will run the government and will have the resources of the US government and will be able to decide priorities and carry out tax crackdown policies. He is not in the elite's pocket. He is not a normal politician. He is not part of the political class. That is why he is so popular with Conservative voters.

'Are you saying Trump's going to have an itchy trigger finger?'

Trump doesn't need an itchy trigger finger. He says he will "make America great again" and everyone knows he will and when he has talks with world leaders, he says they will respect him and respect America and of course they will. Trump means business, he is straight-talking and means what he says. If anyone tries to trick him over taxes etc, there will be sanctions and all sorts until they pay up.

'Because Putin's lost control of the insane asylum and his goons in Eastern Ukraine care more about controlling the people and stopping them getting out. '

That's not the reason. Why do you think they have denied MSF entry? What is it about MSF and the NGOs?

'Not according to you though!'

Not with Trump in charge or any other politician who is not a paid for and bought puppet of the elite.

'Why will they respect him?'

In the same way that Trump says that Putin has zero respect for Obama, but will respect Trump. Everyone will respect Trump or they will find out what happens if they don't. Trump is straight-talking and means what he says. If the elite try and play tricks on Trump, he will let them know what a mistake they have made.

Why do you think that MSF has been denied entry? Why? What is it about them that has led to this denial?

'He challenges them everywhere other than where it hurts them the most: their pocket. '

No because according to you they can all avoid tax by going offshore. What hurts them is anti EU, anti climate change con and anti political correctness thought control and stifling of freedom.

'When has Farage suggested increasing tax take?'

He hasn't, he is for lower taxes, but he challneges the Establishment on lots of other issues such as the EU, climate change, immigration and political correctness. That is why they all united to try and stop him.

I don't believe Harry's Place or people bombing civilians in Donbas.

'If he can find the elite's money, they'll stash it in the Isle of Man. '

I don't think you understand Trump. He says that world leaders and countries will respect him and of course they will. He is not a paid for and bought politician, he is The Donald, and the elite will respect him too and pay their taxes.

'You think it's easy to go up against the elite?'

Of course it isn't. It takes rare courage like Farage has.

'Are Hamas & Hezbollah ethical? Is Putin ethical?'

Putin is ethical. Corbyn ought to have the courage to say what he believes and why he believes it. People respect honesty even if they disagree with what he says.

'Therefore, the easiest and least popular way to raise money is to raise PAYE taxes.'

Trump will offer zero tax for millions and slash middle class tax and he will hit Wall Street with PAYE etc. It can be done if a politician is not in the elite's pocket.

It is a darn sight harder if the following happens

"Tories could cut a fifth of staff at department that chases tax dodgers, union warns"

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tories-could-cut-fifth-staff-5719232

'And even if we did stop all tax avoidance, raising large amounts of money is really only feasible by targetting the middle class'

That sounds like something out of Piers Gaveston. There is no need to hit the squeezed middle as Donald Trump has shown in the United States.

'You don't believe most rich people employ accountants to minimise their tax liability? Really?'

Of course I believe that Blair employs accountants, but there is nothing illegal in that.

'I don't think anyone would deny tax avoidance is difficult to stop'

Vested interests say that it is difficult to stop because they don't want to take on the rich and powerful elite or are in their pocket. Of course it can be stopped and Trump has said he will soak Wall Street and hit the hedge funds hard and that is why they are all against him.

'PPE is OK if they spout Kremlin talking points'

Does Nick Cohen do that? I think you need to read and learn a bit more. Put down Tony Blair's "The Journey" and read Nick Cohen and the Daily Mail.

"I know you were keen to see a full throated defence of years of toadying up to various 3rd world dictators"

No, on the contray, I thought with Corbyn we might see an ethical foreign policy and no more of progressive Blair and his idea of "progress".

"Tony Blair gives Kazakhstan’s autocratic president tips on how to defend a massacre

Tony Blair told the Nursultan Nazarbayev that the deaths of 14 protesters 'tragic though they were, should not obscure the enormous progress' his country had made"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/11052965/Tony-Blair-gives-Kazakhstans-autocratic-president-tips-on-how-to-defend-a-massacre.html

This what part of McDonnell's speech yeaterday

"We need to prove to the British people we can run the economy better than the rich elite that runs it now"

That appeals to millions of Labour voters and millions of non-Labour voters who all share the belief that an elite is messing up our country, wasting public money on follies, fancies, teenage whizzes and charidees instead of fixing the economy to create jobs and prosperity for the people.

But,, I now think that Corbyn and McDonnell are the "toothless two", they lack courage, they aren't the straight-talkers they pretend to be, they have crumbled under Establishment pressure and the teenage whizzkids from Oxbridge who work for the elite have outwitted them and will defeat them, and it is all because they lack the necessary courage to stand up for the people against the elites.

It is sad because it will disappoint millions of good, hard-working people in this country. The Piers Gaveston are doing the conga as the Esatblishment laughs in relief.

'Yes, but most of them have accumulated their wealth through tax avoidance, which you deplore.'

I don't believe that most rich people in this country have done anything illegal or fiddled expenses etc. They are not politicians, they are hard-working people. Some have fiddled, some Oxbridge types may have swung the lead, but that doesn't mean that we should penalise every aspirational and successful person in this country for the wrong-doings of the crooks, cronies and club members.

'Tax avoidance is very hard to stop'

This is the politics of pessimism, probably the politics of Piers Gaveston. Trump will soak Wall Street. That is why they are all against him and why the people are behind him.

'So why do you automatically say that someone who has done PPE or belongs to the Piers Gaveston is suspect??'

I don't. There are lots of good PPEs like the excellent Guardian's left wing journalist Seumas Milne, Nick Cohen etc I don't know any Piers Gaveston people so I can't say about them. But there are an awful lot of PPEs at the top levels who say that "tax avoidance is very hard to stop", who waste public money on follies while foodbanks proliferate and whom I think work for the interests of the elite as opposed to the interests of the people.

'Inheritance tax is a social good, that stops inequality from perpetuating. Read Piketty - I know you like him - he explains it very well.'

I don't like Piketty. I like Farage. I think inheritance tax is robbery of people's accumulated wealth earned over a lifetime. I am against it, I am against the political class (often paid money by lobbyists as our free press occasionally exposes) getting their hands of the hard work and wealth of ordinary people or rich people who are aspirational and have worked hard. I don't want the Gordon Bennetts to have more of the people's money to waste on the Millenium Dome or wind farms in Peru.

'Those that pass down more are disproportionately drawn from the moneyed classes who belong to the Piers Gaveston and did PPE at Oxford.

I'm talking about Russian oligarchs basking in London whilst paying 0 taxes on their massive, massive wealth with no earned income at all. According to you that's just peachy!'

Unlike you, I have nothing against rich people and the Piers Gaveston if they are honest and have done no wrong. I don't believe in the politics of envy or in taking their wealth off them to hand it over to Gordon Bennett or any apparatchik.

I am not in favour of Russian oligarchs paying zero taxes, but that is what the political class have allowed. Putin wanst most of them extradited back to Russia so that they can face trial if they have robbed money from the Russian people, but the teenage advisers don't agree.