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Iraq is Blairs stigma, A Pig is Daves?

38 replies

GlitteringGrass · 23/09/2015 00:37

Hate him or loathe him Blair will forever be remembered for the Gulf war and being Bush's lapdog. I just checked Dave's Face Book profile and despite a plucky determination to prove that it's business as usual by deploying inspirational posts about tennis and rugby there are hundreds of comments ignoring the subject to which he refers, instead opting to make banal (although sometimes funny) comments regarding the unsavoury activities he is 'alleged' to have performed on a dead pig. Is he lucky to have such a salacious story crop up at a time when the refugee crisis is continuing to escalate, a crisis he played no small part in causing? Is there any Herculean task he could accomplish that will stop him being-in the minds of vast swathes of the British public- the guy who put his penis in a pig?

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Isitmebut · 23/09/2015 10:02

Cameron screwed the poor????

Not the huge welfare/benefit/tax credit State promised by Labour, but funded by the proceeds of a financial bubble Labour created - that Brown promised was “the end of boom and bust” – but in truth was the mother of all booms and then busts to come unstuck at the first big recession?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10574376/Graphic-Britain-outstrips-Europe-on-welfare-spending.html
”Welfare spending in Britain has increased faster than almost any other country in Europe since 2000, new figures show.”

April 2011; Gordon Brown:I made ‘big mistake’ on banks before financial crisis
metro.co.uk/2011/04/11/gordon-brown-i-made-big-mistake-on-banks-before-financial-crisis-650630/

”Gordon Brown has admitted making a ‘big mistake’ in regulating Britain’s banks before the country was plunged into recession by the 2008 financial crisis, as current chancellor George Osborne prepares to hand power back to the Bank of England.”

December 2011; Labour's lax regulation of the City contributed to RBS collapse – watchdog
FSA says Labour leadership had encouraged it to take a 'light touch' on banks and must take share of blame for financial crisis
www.theguardian.com/business/2011/dec/12/labour-regulations-city-rbs-collapse

Apr 2010; Inequality rose under Labour, says IFS
www.ft.com/cms/s/0/527519d8-4287-11df-8c60-00144feabdc0.html

”The gap between rich and poor has grown since 1997, despite three successive Labour governments reforming the tax and benefit system in an attempt to reduce income inequality, the Institute for Fiscal Studies said .”

suzannecaravan · 23/09/2015 09:32

the pig is allegorical surely?

Caprinihahahaha · 23/09/2015 09:13

Really?

If the worst thing remembered about Cameron is that he stuck his dick in a pig that will be incredibly depressing.

Blair led the country into a staggeringly damaging war which has resulted in chaos and thousands of deaths. Compared to that piggate is pathetic.

I would hope history will correctly blame Cameron for the fucking over the poor, the vulnerable and the disabled.

squidzin · 23/09/2015 09:10

Pigma.

suzannecaravan · 23/09/2015 09:09

did you mean stigmata?

suzannecaravan · 23/09/2015 09:07

stigma?

MagpieRainbow · 23/09/2015 09:06

Out in the real world, away from statistics and numbers and acronyms and cherry picked 'facts' this country is creaking at the seams. Schools, hospitals, old people homes, local governments are under an unprecedented amount of duress. The mindset of the average Briton is that of one under 360 degree assault The Tories have approached the the business of government with the sophistication and skill of a butcher with a chopper when really what was needed was the deft hand of a surgeon. But worst of all, in my opinion-leaving aside their abject failure to live up to their mission statement-was the constant pandering to the lowest common denominator with tepid sound-bites and populist , end of the pier platitudes. And now we find out Dave has carnal knowledge of a dead pig. I'm sure if it wasn't for all that pandering to base sentiment in a obvious attempt to divorce his party from 'nasty' then Piggate would not have the suction on the public mindset it seems to have acquired. You reap what you sow Dave. Just don't do it in a pig. And also the cocaine thing was pretty shabby too.

Isitmebut · 23/09/2015 08:44

Under Labour there would have been huge cuts sooner than later, and without any reforms to the massive increase in welfare/benefits/tax credits that rose far higher than the rest of Europe in 'the good years' FINANCED by a financial bubble that then burst - ever higher taxes for all on top.

No one can say what a Labour government in 2010 or socialist coalition in 2015 under them would have cut, as they only TALKED about it and in the middle of a financial crisis the Tories didn't create, someone had to act.

Kampeki · 23/09/2015 08:11

Tbh, I couldn't care less what vile and disgusting things Cameron may or may not have done as a student. I'm just not interested.

What I do care about are the vile and disgusting things that he is doing as PM now, and I will judge him on these actions.

Isitmebut · 23/09/2015 08:04

Clearly those who think that we need 4, 5, maybe 10 threads on the same slurry, who don’t have the intellect to see the difference Cameron has made to the UK’s prospects since 2010, may chose to give that thought, planted by self confessed man with a beef with Cameron, as Cameron’s legacy.

When Labour came into power in 1997, with no national emergencies, they had a few years to learn how to govern while putting up taxes, selling our gold and raiding pensions, the ‘stuff’ Labour are good at.

With the Conservatives out of power for 13-years Cameron in 2010 had to hit the ground running, form the first coalition in around 70-years, and fight an opposition that had totally unbalanced the economy prior to the crash opposing every reform from May 2010, yet judging by their action after that 2007/8 crash as real earning were falling, that oppositions only solutions from May 2010 UNTIL FACING REALITY - was to keep increasing the annual overspend sustaining the unsustainable, while putting UP taxes e.g. National Insurance.

March 2010; ”Alistair Darling: we will cut deeper than Margaret Thatcher”
www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/mar/25/alistair-darling-cut-deeper-margaret-thatcher

”Alistair Darling admitted tonight that Labour's planned cuts in public spending will be "deeper and tougher" than Margaret Thatcher's in the 1980s, as the country's leading experts on tax and spending warned that Britain faces "two parliaments of pain" to repair the black hole in the state's finances.”

October 2013; “Labour will be tougher than Tories on benefits, promises new welfare chief”
www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/12/labour-benefits-tories-labour-rachel-reeves-welfare

“Rachel Reeves vows to cut welfare bill and force long-term jobless to take up work offers or lose state support”

March 2010; “Labour’s plans to increase national insurance next year will cost jobs, Alistair Darling has said.”
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/7539343/Labours-planned-National-Insurance-increase-will-cost-jobs-Alistair-Darling-admits.html

“In his evidence, Mr Darling defended his plans to increase national insurance, saying it was necessary to raise extra money to reduce Government borrowing, which will be £167 billion this year.”

So Labour that KNEW cuts had to be made but we had to be on the Road to Greece before they faced it, will always be remembered as the incompetent party that with hundreds of billions to spend, a huge parliamentary majority, a boom decade in which to shape society, had nothing to show for it with nearly everything worse than when they came to power.

Cameron’s leadership from 2010 had to fix our economy, finances, still rocketing debt due to the unbalanced economy, the banks to lend again, the private sector given confidence to hire, our defence black hole, a housing crisis, the NHS with PFI debts 13,000 fewer beds and 3 million more citizens etc etc etc – having been passed a £153 billion annual government overspend by Labour, when our books were balanced around 2001, thanks to Tory budgets after the 1990/1 recession.

So if people can’t see the changes he had to make, our GDP that FELL 7% after the crash growing faster than any other European country, created more jobs than most of the Eurozone put together and so the UK has half the Eurozones unemployment rate – and still unable to work out how bad the UK would have been without his leadership and those who got us into the mess still trying to work out what they were doing wrong – then pig ignorant comes to mind.

Atenco · 23/09/2015 03:27

I see this rumour as emblematic, rather than the only thing he can be accused of. It is foul and disgusting and not very surprising.

30somethingm · 23/09/2015 00:42

Although pigs don't have hooves do they?

30somethingm · 23/09/2015 00:42

I think his legacy will be that he always invents policies on the hoof