Just voted for Labour Leader

There is nothing like a responsible government sending their troops into war with enough equipment, and when the time came a Defence Secretary saying we hope we can leave after three 3-years without firing a shot ?? Labour put our troops lives in danger that was nothing like responsible.

Three years later our troops without enough equipment and jokingly referred to by the Americans as ??The Borrowers??, had fired around 12 million bullets.

??Why we went into Helmand??

A Blair government insider assesses the flawed decision-making that led to the blithely optimistic British deployment in 2006
www.theguardian.com/world/julian-borger-global-security-blog/2012/apr/23/afghanistan-helmand-deployment

Yet left a huge black hole in the budget; like every other department, incompetent and where did all the money go?

While the financially incompetent Labour Party, who sent troops to Afghanistan without enough bullet proof vests, anti mine vehicles and helicopters which cost service peoples LIVES - left a £38 to £74 billion Defence overspend - forcing a reorganisation as Labour also left a £153 bil total government departments budget deficit/overspend.

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/374669/Labour-over-spending-leaves-74-billion-defence-deficit

Still we got those two overly large aircraft carriers ordered by Gordon Brown, with no money for airplanes, to be built down the road to his own constituency - that were to expensive to individually cut.

Meanwhile, the Tories Cut 20,000 Army 5,000 RAF 5,000 Navy, and 22,000 Police officers.

MrsDeVere-

Make that every family's security who doesn't come from a privileged upper or upper-middle class background.

I am a member of the Labour Party and I agree it would be a threat under Corbyn if it were to be elected with his policies. But it won't be.

The politics of hate, fear and ignorance. The usual shit stirring nonsense from the right now that JC has been elected.

Posters on here worked for PP, and they had nothing good to say about her.

I know someone who follows anything the media feeds them, currently they are spitting feathers that JC has won. He is going to bring terrorists into the country to take all tax payers money in benefits and he is a crazy old Man, apparently. It will be interesting to see their viewpoint as time goes by.

They do the serious risk thing to drum up funds, but secretly I think they're opening the vintage Dom at No 10. " i saved this for a special occasion........"

Probably. Meanwhile Jeremy, who really does have cause to celebrate, is out working joining a rally to support refugees.

I know which one I'd rather get behind.

Priti Patel is over rated person, she will tosh out bs just to be in news. JC will ignore her, which will add to her fury.

It would be nice to send her to Trump campaign.

They do the serious risk thing to drum up funds, but secretly I think they're opening the vintage Dom at No 10. " i saved this for a special occasion........"

Yes I agree. Labour has no chance of winning an election with him as leader. They have nothing to be scared of.

I'd have a lot more respect for the Tories if they said "Hey, it doesn't matter that JC has been elected, because they won't influence us at all and will never win another GE, so who cares"

By banging on about 'serious risk' they're making themselves look scared...

Yes, saw Michaal Fallon coming out with that inconsistent tosh as well. Make your minds up.

But surely the logical conclusion of their 'serious risk' argument is that they either believe that:

a) Labour have a serious chance (risk) of influencing the government's policies while the Tories are in power

or

b) Labour have a serious chance (risk) of winning the next election.

Now surely, they won't admit to either of those, so what, exactly do they think are they at serious risk of doing?

That is what I wish someone would ask the next Tory who says that live on TV.

Tory MP Priti Patel on Sky says that Labour pose a "serious risk" to our country's defences and our economy. They will all be on message about "serious risk" now for the next 5 years. Their best Oxbridge teenage think tank whizzkids have obviously come up with this wheeze, but they will oveuse it and become like the Tory who cried wolf. I don't think the people will fall for it when they hear what Corbyn is offering.

Checks list for female leaders........ oh .......... Labour risk being 2-0 down to the Eton toffs. tsk. If ever you were going to rig a ballot now would have been a good time.

I have enough popcorn, drinks and a comfy chair and look forward to the inevitable rhetoric about "We are better than them, trust us" arguments till 2020

Still boils down to who do the electorate trust when they have to make that choice.

Governments fall because they make big mistakes, loose public trust and Jo Public feels worse off - A week is a long time in politics, 2020 is a long way off but we shall see what comes

Politicians of all colours will promise the earth to get elected and then realise they can't "afford" what they have promised.

Labour needs to identify why it got "nuked" in Scotland and why it lostthe 2015 election.

That is what JC has to sort out and address - Waste of time shouting from the rooftops that they are better than the incumbents.

Come up with a credible, costed options - Then let the electorate vote on who they trust

Question - How will JC sort out Scotland?

Good news, Chuka Umunna says he won't serve in the Shadow Cabinet. We won't see his slick patter for a long time on our TV screens. This just gets better and better

Yes, I wanted to like him, but as soon as the slick, rehearsed spin comes out his mouth it turns me right off.

It really is something as simple as the way the express themselves to me. I'm pretty superficial with my politicians!

JC is like a squeeze of lemon in Labour's water to cleanse the pallet after gorging on greasy cheese and for years.

And Tristram won't serve in the Shadow Cabinet. Great, hopefully the BBC won't keep inviting him on Questiontime either. This just gets better and better!

'Nice own goal'

They will repeat this message for 5 years, just like they were all on message about "the longterm economic plan". But I think they underestimate the people.

Good news, Chuka Umunna says he won't serve in the Shadow Cabinet. We won't see his slick patter for a long time on our TV screens. This just gets better and better.

Yes, they will say he is a security risk, dangerous etc But I don't think the people will fall for any of it

Michael Fallon, Defence Secretary just now on TV "This result now presents a serious risk to our National Security, and the security of your families" outlining labour policies on defence

Erm, that would imply that you expect Labour to be in charge of the country one day Mr Fallon. Nice own goal.