Could somebody explain why Corbyn shouldn't be voted for as Labour party leader?

If / when Corbyn is selected as Labour leader, the party will split. The Blairites will form a Social Democratic Party leaving the hard core Leftists with what's left of the Labour Party.

So we've had our first indication of how Corbyn would solve problems -

Problem - anti-social behaviour and harassment of women in trains

Corbyn Solution - female only carriages on trains

Sticking plaster on the wound.

straggle, the Sun political editor has just said on Sky News Press Report
"the Corbyn effect is quite exraordinary and it is going to change British politics for years, mark my words".

You should celebrate that as a Labour Party supporter. Corbyn will change the whole country. This is huge, it is a peaceful revolution. There is no going back to the old Tory-lite Blairite ways, they are over, totally discredited. Blair is now the pantomime villain, elicting boos, hisses and hilarity in equal measure and if Labour doesn't change and embrace Corbyn, then they will go the same way as Blair.

'proving to his party and negotiators he has a democratic mandate and thus popular support'

He will need the support of the Greek Tories and the Greek Tory-lites, just as Blair needed them for Iraq, where Corbyn voted against them.

Tsipras is costing Greece millions of pounds in referendums and elections, true, but I guess it's the principle of proving to his party and negotiators he has a democratic mandate and thus popular support. Maybe Corbyn will be like Varoufakis - whether he quit out of principle or was out of his depth, I don't know.

'I actually think he might stand down under those circumstances rather than be pushed, Tsipras style.'

But Tsipras had to stand down because he wasn't left wing enough and the real left in Syriza would no longer support him. There is no danger of that happening in Labour as the Tory-lites aren't left wing.

Opinion Polls this far ahead in time are widely known to be misrepresentative and innacurate, uneducated.
(by name and nature?)

The results of a Corbyn led Labour party are already evident from the first opinion polls. Labour down to just 28% Conservatives 42% . This is in the 'honeymoon' period for St Jeremy, before people have analysed is policies and the economic effect on them personally .

This means in a General Election campaign , with a concerted press rampage warning of the dire consequences Labour would be lucky to poll 25%.

You can see the effect on seats this would have by posting on Electoral Caculus/UK Polling Report. Labour destroyed below '200' seats Conservatives on over 375 seats winning in 'Darlington' ...

The views on this site are so far wide of the general population , it is extraordinary . The only candidate of the four , who could possibly win any floating voters is Liz Kendal !

They would need 20% of the PLP to support a named contender prior to the annual conference. And that would probably only be justified if Labour lost a series of local elections, devolved parliament elections or by-elections. A lot is happening next year in May but I think they will sit tight unless there is a definite pattern that shows the electorate support for Labour is even less than under Milliband.

I actually think he might stand down under those circumstances rather than be pushed, Tsipras style.

Labour can't see their arse from their arm at the moment. They're barring voters willy nilly from supporting the party, whether Blairites or Corbynite they ain't got a clue. They might as well shoot their toes off.

I wouldn't worry about MP's voting for any vote of no confidence. The only good thing about these malleable career-politician faux-labour misguided Blairites is that they will do what they think is popular.

Corbyn is popular. He has whole flock of carreer Tell-us-what-to-think politicians to back him.

I agree that a split is on the cards especially if Jeremy Corbyn wins. I wonder what would happen if the MP's had a vote of no cofidence in the leader. And the majority won. What a mess. You couldn't make it up. A gift for the Tories. Why can't Labour see this.

I can't see either side accepting defeat gracefully. I feel a split is now inevitable. The right-leaning wing can establish a New Social Democratic Party leaving the Corbynites with the rump of Labour.

It's probably for the best as the Corbynites have very clear views on what they stand for whereas the right-wing leaning are just saying "We are career politicians, now tell us what our policies should be".

It would be wonderful if the Tories could also split as Cameron is not a traditional Tory and the right wing of that party are disenfranchised

All I can say is as ever those women senisbkle enough to become lawyers like I did are the ones who will gain because if I were a losing Labour candidate I would want to litigate this. If a Times journalist/MP? can register his alpacas (although by the way he has promised they will not vote - they have trouble holding pens apparently) to vote then God knows who else is on that list.

Many of Corbyn's plans will probably be thwarted by EU competition regulations. It was a EU directive that caused the break up of Royal Mail / Post Office counters

Squidz - I'm honoured :D

I was on holiday in claig's favourite country :D

Vivienne - I agree, letting people register as supporters for £3 was mad. However I also think that many JC supporters won't end up voting. We saw in the general election that the loudest voices in social media don't necessarily predict an election.

But I expect I'm wrong :p

I don't understand why they just can't cancel the election and say only people who have been proper members of the party for a year or more can vote. Seems Labour aren't really capable of applying common sense and only wring their hands in despair while the whole party is whizzing along towards the cliff edge of oblivion. Why on earth don't they do something. Of course Corbyn might be really popular and become the next PM.

Isit is David Cameron's Pet Poodle

ooh Aloysha's back!

Lumpy - I think you're arrogant to assume that people will want the Cons out in 5 years.

They wanted full fat austerity rather than semi-skimmed this election, why would the electorate suddenly become more left wing in the interim?

When has Labour ever won an election by tacking to the left?

In some ways I hope Corbyn wins, we see how popular he really is, and you guys can realise he is not going to win us the next election...

It is breathtakingly arrogant to say that Corbyn is unelectable. After 5 more years under a full tory mandate people will be chomping at the bit to get them out, particularly the young whose lives they seem so keen to ruin. I hope anyone who signed up to vote for Corbyn as they thought it would secure successive tory governments will learn to deeply regret their decision.

JanetBlyton, you may be right, but there is no room for more alpacas in Labour's top echelons. They already have Burnham, Cooper and Kendall.

Isit Are you David Cameron?

Yawn... Corbyn "unelectable" great... Tory rule for 100's of years.... Superb victory for Tories...

Whatever.

Cl, I am very much in favour of Corbyn winning as leader of Labour, as are many on the right as we know it means Labour will not rule for a generation. Corbyn is very good news in that resepct.

I don't agree the great and good are quaking in boots over him. Instead they are signing up their alpacas to vote for him. However I am sure the posh end of the Labour party are indeed quaking in boots.

What is Corbyn going to do on top of this?

May 2014: “HMRC crackdown yields record £23.9bn in additional tax”
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27576626

”The government has raised a record £23.9bn in additional tax for the year to the end of March as a result of a crackdown on tax avoidance.”

”HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) said it had secured the money - the highest amount since records began - as a result of its investigations.”

”The figure is almost £1bn higher than the target set by Chancellor George Osborne in the Autumn Statement.”

”The extra money raised is in addition to regular tax receipts.”

”HMRC credited "increased activity" on unpaid tax for the figure.”

"HMRC will pursue those seeking to avoid their responsibilities and will collect the taxes that are due," said Treasury minister David Gauke.”

"The government is determined to tackle the minority that seek to avoid paying the taxes they owe," he added.”

“Noose tightens around global tax evasion as OECD countries sign new agreement”
www.cityam.com/1414597567/noose-tightens-around-global-tax-evasion-oecd-countries-sign-new-agreement

"The OECD just took a step closer to fighting tax evasion on a global scale, with 51 territories agreeing to create “information exchanges” that will help track culprits down."

"The first signatories to the dull-sounding "multilateral competent authority agreement" – which include the UK and Ireland – will launch their information exchanges by September 2017. Others will follow in 2018."

Feb 2015: ”Britain's highest earners pay a quarter of nation's income tax”

“New figures published by HMRC show that the proportion of the nation's tax bill paid by the richest has risen under the Coalition”

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/tax/11411790/Britains-highest-earners-pay-a-quarter-of-nations-income-tax.html

Only a Farage supporter can blindly assume a political leader actually has the means to deliver what they say - and if Corbyn states he will bring in more taxes than the present government - unless he specifies how, every business from small to large will assume their taxes will keep going up under a Corbyn government as back in the 1970's, to meet his SPENDING plans.