Could somebody explain why Corbyn shouldn't be voted for as Labour party leader?

If would not even be bothered about this leadership vote if just AB, YC and LK were contesting.

Even if TB were contesting, Labour would not be electable. AC and likes should shut up and Labour members and supporters elect who ever they want to be their leader and unite behind however is elected. It is called democracy. Isn't it?

He wants all Jews in the world killed?! Really?

I think that actually crosses the line into being libellous... Hysterical nonsense!

The vulnerable people in this country will gain nothing, nada, zilch if one of the other three muppets get elected. It's fantasy to imagine they will.

It's his policies.
Doesn't matter that he might be too old, get a hernia or loose a limb by the next election (hopefully not of course) He has time to nurture a whole party of "Corbynites" to see through his policies into our future.

5 years is enough time to form a NEW New Labour.

He has every chance.
in 24 hours trade union membership has more than doubled. The Labour website has crashed from 400,000 new members.

It's unprecedented. And for the first time we are seeing people attracted to policies rather than personality.

"The vulnerable people need a Labour party that can win"
They sure do.

The current bunch can't even vote against welfare cuts or against the Tories.

Labour under corbyn can win.
Corbyn

No, for the vulnerable people in this country who need a Labour Party that stands a chance of actually getting elected.

"won't end well"
For who? The career politician Blairites?
Great.

I could see a Corbyn led labour party splitting, with the Corbyn part merging with the Greens and further left parties. The other part could merge with the remnant of the liberals to form a centre left party which would attract some Greens as well. I don't think UKIP will survive in any meaningful form.

Corbyn will not require a smear campaign.

His stated values will attract some but repel more.

Sorry, outtolunchagain, point very much taken. You are right. OK, RESURRECT CHARLES KENNEDY for the over 60's..

Actually the long and the short of it is that Corbyn is all hot air, all bark and no bite . He has no experience of delivering policy , no idea of how to persuade his fellow MPs to vote with him and no interest In real people as opposed to political theories .

And with all due respect I suspect that Charles Kennedy would be fairly horrified to be bracketed with Jeremy Corbyn .

To give a different perspective: I will soon be over 60 and if I am back in England with the vote by the time of the next election, I will NOT be voting Tory and apart from needing clarification on Hamas, and possibly depending on where he stands on the EU, would vote Labour if Corbyn were their leader. Completely disillusioned by Blair's right wing policies and saddened at the untimely loss of Charles Kennedy who was actually a credible leader when not in his cups.. and even then.

He is totally Islington.

So who would you choose? Of the 4 on offer?

Traditional Labour vote might have been a better phrase.

It doesn't exist any more. This isn't the 1970s.

Pneu I'm not talking about older voters so why are you making out I am. Traditional Labour vote might have been a better phrase. The ordinary people who don't see themselves reflected in the Islington set.

Maybe JC can get non voters enthused and bring back the old Labour vote

That's one of the great myths. Older voters vote; it's just that they don't vote for Labour. So the idea that there is some huge reservoir of disillusioned older voters sat at home, waiting for a saviour, is just nonsense: they are voting already.

His personality make him a great conscience for a political party to have. A leader he is not.

Anybody on here who thinks 'Corbyn' is a credible leader of HM opposition is living in cloud 'cuckoo' land. This is a man who invited members of Sinn Fein to parliament two weeks after the Brighton Bombing outrage as well as is odious views about Hamas .

People need to look outside the Mumsnet 'Educated lefty bubble' for what the true feelings of the public are.

This is shown on the first opinion polls after the election showing the Conservatives now on 41 % (37% election) Labour on 31% (31% Election) this is after 'unpopular' budget . Corbyn's idea about withdrawing from NATO would lose another 5% or so of the electorate, his support of HAMAS would lose even more 'the coup de grace' though is his links to Gerry Adams

The media will destroy him, and paint him as the 'heir' to Micheal Foot .

I actually think he needs to be a bit careful ! stating he wants to put a former PM on trial for WAR CRIMES!

MI6 WOULD NEVER ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN NOR THE MONARCHY TO BE PUT AT RISK !

Corbyn would be wise to remember Robyn Cook, not forgetting David Kelly before opening his mouth .

I think he's gathered the support because he is the only 'different' voice. The other 3 are more of the same to Ed Milliband. It didn't work last time. They're nice personable candidates but bland. Corbyn will undoubtedly be torn apart by the media and struggle to lead a united opposition but is a united bland party that acquiesces to the Tories better?
Maybe JC can get non voters enthused and bring back the old Labour vote. It might work. If it doesn't at least we went down fighting and if it does :)

right now labour aren't actually opposing anything the govt are doing.

It doesn't matter either way: they don't have the votes. Opposition is futile. You spend the time getting back into office. Nothing else matters.

I think Corbyn would realign what "centre" means and then probably implode and a new leader could be in place before the 2020 election.

So that's Labour circa 1983, with the implosion of the hard left and a campaign fought by Kinnock, and then Smith, to make Labour electable again by throwing out Jeremy Corbyn's mates Militant. Even in the face of the Tories first at their most savage, and then at their most incompetent and divided, it took fourteen years for Labour to get back into office after that, and that with one of the most devious charismatic politicians of his generation at the helm. So are you saying that come 2017, Labour will have done some amazing realignment of British politics, then the left implodes, and then it's business as usual? FOURTEEN YEARS IT TOOK LAST TIME.

"What do we want? A Labour government! When do we want it? 2031!"

What do you think our public services will look like if the Tories are in office until 2030?

Pneumometer has it spot on. Same thing happened in Scottish Indyref. Lots of like minded people campaigning/ partying together and being convinced of a yes win because everybody they knew was yes.

But the non campaigners outvoted them everywhere except Glasgow.

So many of them were left devastated, but in all honesty they hadn't seen the bigger picture. The same applies to Corbyn mania.