Could somebody explain why Corbyn shouldn't be voted for as Labour party leader?

I've just seen the latest anti-Corbyn story www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34106214 Can't be bothered to start a new thread on it but it made me laugh.

They're desperately trying to dig up mud to throw at him, and this is the best they can come up with... that he prefers the process of law to that of vigilantes. He's quite right that Bin Laden should have been tried. But then wasn't there close link between him and the ruling family of the US at the time?

There will be pressure for another fptp referendum.

We had a PR referendum in the last parliament - the Conservatives can justifiably ignore that for another 20 years.

Alice In Wonderland's

On the (slim) possibility that Corbyn is not elected PM 2020, PR in parliament will at least retain and enable JC influence.

What parallel universe are you living in?

But yes, other than that look at how debate has already changed, eg Y.C's position on the trade union bill.
Thanks to Corbyn

Lightening, re your reply to ALassUnparalelled,

These Tory/Blairite doomsayers insisting Corbyn spells the end of Labour forever are also forgetting FPTP will come to it's inevitable end.

1. Corbyn for leader
2. Before 5 years time put an end to FPTP and introduce PR.
3. Democratically put an end to Tory elitist government once and for all.

On the (slim) possibility that Corbyn is not elected PM 2020, PR in parliament will at least retain and enable JC influence.

NUMBER ONE END FPTP ONCE AND FOR ALL.

Haha oops I thought you were calling me a "Lass"

Corbyn's already 'done something' and he's not even won the labour leadership. He's made it possible to have other debates.

Chin up Britain, we're not done yet.

No, to LassUnparalleled (that's why I put 'Lass' at the beginning) and the belief that winning the executive power is the only thing that possibly matters no matter what the cost or what is being done with it.

I agree with you (Squidzin).

LighteningOnly, is that to me?
If democracy is your consern, voting Corbyn widens this further than any other party leader.
Presently, our so-called democracy is lead by a small niche if Oxbridge-Westminster inherited wealth establishment elites. Keeping all so-called democratic power in the hands of a wealthy minority.

Under Corbyn, no policy will be made by him directly, or limited to collegues. Decision making on policy will be widended to vote for all labour members much in a Scandinavian style.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/27/jeremy-corbyn-labour-membership-policy-leadership

In addition JC promises to set up a fund to enable people on low incomes to become labour MPs.

True democracy at last.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-will-set-up-a-fund-to-help-people-on-low-incomes-become-labour-mps-10468820.html

Lass, have you heard of Parliament? It used to work quite well once.

The executive is not the be-all-and-end-all in a functioning democracy. Thank god, given David Cameron's stupidity- I saw he revisited the question of stripping all security off online transactions (of all kinds) recently. As well as the fox hunting thing.

You're just jealous of John Lennon.

I assume you are on a wind up now squidzin

In actual fact, Corbyn is more like Ghandi. Or Mandela. Or John Lennon

Not sure how such a true socialist as you are can admire the man who wrote " imagine no possessions, it's easy if you try" whilst owning 2 New York apartments, one of which was just to store possessions.

Janet Blyton is correct. If he wins there won't be a Labour government before 2025 at the earliest.

Blair was always a Tory.
Nothing he says about Corbyn is surprising.

Took Tony a while to reveal his true Tory self then didn't it.

When will the rest of the New Labour Blairites follow suit, and just join the Tory party finally.

Blair wrote a very good column in yesterday's Observer. I am a Tory supporter but Blair is right on all this. I am very very supportive of Corbyn becoming Labour leader as there will not then be a Labour government for a generation and that will be a very good thing for the poor of the UK.

In actual fact, Corbyn is more like Ghandi. Or Mandela. Or John Lennon.

Yes, sorry I did mean to say "an older and far politer " version.

"Corbyn is simply an older version of Tommy Sheridan"

In defence of Jezza a somewhat mild mannered version I'd suggest.

As a soft southerner, every time I saw Sheridan give a speech, I expected it to end with a 'Glasgow kiss' - with firm instructions to "stitch that".

You seem to be forgetting the Labour party has to win a general election before Corbyn can do anything. That is not going to happen.

It’s a revolution but within a hermetically sealed bubble – not the Westminster one they despise, but one just as remote from actual reality

He is absolutely spot on with this. Corbyn is simply an older version of Tommy Sheridan and will have as much appeal to voters as Sheridan did.

Hallelujah.
JEZ WE MORE THAN CAN

C?RBYN FOR 2020

'Tony Blair has given up on Labour’s leadership election'
...
But he makes clear too that he knows his warnings will make no difference to the ‘Corbynistas’. He accepts that ‘the Labour party is now effectively a changed political party over the space of three months’. Blair has given up on stopping Corbyn. He appears to be making his point so that he can say that he tried his best.

He certainly doesn’t bother trying to woo Corbynistas, describing the phenomenon as ‘Alice in Wonderland’, and characterising the candidate’s supporters thus:

‘It’s a revolution but within a hermetically sealed bubble – not the Westminster one they despise, but one just as remote from actual reality. Those in this bubble feel good about what they’re doing. They’re making all those “in authority” feel their anger and their power. There is a sense of real change because of course the impact on politics is indeed real. The Labour party is now effectively a changed political party over the space of three months.’

What’s also striking about the Blair piece is his admission that he doesn’t fully understand what is going on in his party either, even though he does have a jolly good stab at explaining the rise of anti-politics parties across the developed world. He writes that ‘people like me have a lot of thinking to do. We don’t yet properly understand this’ and adds that he doesn’t know what the answer is to the question of how the party takes on the anti-politics feeling."

blogs.spectator.co.uk/isabel-hardman/2015/08/tony-blair-has-given-up-on-labours-leadership-election/

Sheer utter panic among the elite. Blair doesn't understand the people, the elite don't either and however many Establishment bigwigs they throw at the people, they all fall flat on their face. What a wonderful thing democracy is. Jez we can!

Blair has done a massive favour to Corbyn by "speaking out" in this way. He has no comprehension as to how much he is hated.

In addition, I am Corbynite, but Y.C recent stance on the Trade union bill is to be commended. We can thank Corbynmania for that one

"Guy perhaps in illusion of being important."

Let democracy rule. What is he so afraid of? Who do public services serve primarily? Who do those screaming against them serve primarily? Without redistribution and its vehicles the elite are free to exploit as much as they like.