Could somebody explain why Corbyn shouldn't be voted for as Labour party leader?

"Gordon Brown to speak on Labour leadership as MPs panic over Corbyn

Labour MPs – among whom support for Corbyn is low – pushing for an intervention from Brown, who they believe has more credibility than Tony Blair"

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/14/gordon-brown-speak-labour-leadership-contest-mps-panic-corbyn

What a disgraceful party, arrogant MPs plotting agaiinst the most popular Labour leader in years, ignoring the democratic will of their members. I wish Corbyn was tougher and would put the lot of them up for reselection so that the pay members could kick all of them out.

because he has been a rebel in the side of the Labour Establishment servants ever since he became an MP

Which is why he can'take complain if the PLP rebel against him which they will do

Good poin, DinosaursRoar.

But people don't like Corbyn because of his barnstorming speeches or his gift of the gab. They like him for his policies and his integrity and honesty and decency - which is so different to the metropolitan shower.

Provided Corbyn doesn't change, provided he sticks to hs principles and delivers the change he promises, then he will be the most popular leader of the past 20 years. And there is no sign he will change, no sign he will become one of "them" - the spinners, the hand gesture crew with a slick soundbite for ever occasion - because he has been a rebel in the side of the Labour Establishment servants ever since he became an MP.

Mirror supporting AB
Guardian supporting YC

Voters are supporting JC.

Why worry? In just few weeks, we will know how many votes Corbyn gets. At present, it looks like to be over 50%.

He's liked now, now he's the under dog. Now he's the outsider. Now he's the little guy standing up to the party grandees. It's a good story, it's the little working man vs the posh smooth politicians. Of course people who don't support his policies still like him now.

But if he becomes the party leader he's no longer the outsider, the under dog, he's then one of the main politicians. That's a different level of judgement.

emotonsecho, at the moment millions of people have never even heard of Corbyn and his poliicies. The BBC, when not interviewing Establishment favourite, Labour MP, Jess Phillips, went to Birmingham and one woman in the street didn't even know Labour were having an election.

Wait until the people hear what Corbyn will do, when the BBC and the media will have to report it, it will be a landslide. It won't just be liking, it will be a stampede, and it will be the middle class who will be at the forefront of it, provided Corbyn doesn't make the mistake of going against us.

claig being liked doesn't necessarily translate into will vote for. I have liked and indeed admired many politicians from several different parties but that doesn't mean I would, or have, voted for them.

"Ukip and Labour supporters appeared especially keen on Corbyn, ranking him the highest for being the most likely to take the Labour party in the right direction, having the best ideas about the future of the UK, caring the most about helping the British people and making the best leader. In contrast, Conservatives opted for Burnham on most measures."

Haven't read the whole thread but I was extremely upset to hear of his support for the IRA.

The truth starts to emerge

"Jeremy Corbyn is most popular among voters from all parties, poll suggests

Labour leadership candidate is as popular with Ukip voters as Labour voters, Survation finds, and is top in London, according to separate poll

Jeremy Corbyn is more popular than the other Labour leadership candidates with the wider electorate and fares particularly well with Ukip supporters as well as those from his own party, a Survation poll suggests.

The survey of 1,000 people found that Corbyn scored the highest when they were asked about his personal qualities and which candidate would be the best at holding the government to account as the leader of the opposition.

Among Ukip voters, 39% of them liked him the most, higher than the 38% of Labour voters who said so. But just 22% of Conservatives liked Corbyn, compared with 25% who preferred Andy Burnham."

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/14/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leadership-most-popular-candidate-voters-all-parties

According to C4 news, polls predict he will get 57% of the votes. Watch this space...

I was just wondering (praps naively) if Ed has a tiny bit of sympathy with Corbyn's position

He always appeared a bit hobbled to me-like he wanted to say other stuff but had been told by spads and focus groups not to

But I might just have thought that because I fancied him BEFORE IT WAS FASHIONABLE

Because they think people won't like him. But their judgement isn't very good is it. They're the ones who thought people would vote for Miliband when everyone else knew he hadn't a chance. At least Jeremy Corbyn is getting away from the champagne socialist London elite types. I might even vote Labour if he gets elected leader.

If Mandelson and Milkband start telling everyone to NOT vote Corbyn, he will get even more votes.

Maybe we are all being played, actually

Emotionsecho, it was the same with Farage, every time he was dissed, his popularity grew.

I do not think the British public like to be told who to vote for

IMO Corbyn is not splitting the party, he is bringing it back to life (he is Labour's defibrillator). He showing everyone else up for the fools they are. He doesn't badmouth them. He doesn't have to. You gotta respect that! I do, anyway.

Corbyn was an anti apartheid activist when it was deemed pretty subersive to be such.
He stands up for what he thinks is right and has some bollocks.
He had also put in one of the lowest expenses claims when the expenses scandal was investigated.
He is a good man not a wannabe celeb.

Trouble is all these ex leaders and Labour grandees telling the labour members who not to vote for is coming across as parents telling their rebellious teenage children not to do something, comes across as rather desperate and patronising. It doesn't give a good impression of the Labour Party as a whole.

What I see from my stand is quite simple. I voted Green because I had no faith in a centre ground Labour government. But I like what I see in Corbyn, that is a real person, not a groomed and spun puppet.

Phone keeps adding in strange words, sorry

The key word there is yet.

I'm certain he will attract some point.

It isn'the just Labour party members that are voting though. Green party members have confirmed they have joined as affiliates but are still green party members.

That goes completely against the rules.

The great thing is that Miliband has held out and has not joined in. John Rentoul said Blair had no choice but to join in as an ex leader and Brown was late in joining in, but the surprise is that Miliband has not joined in yet. Respect to Miliband for respecting Labour Party members but they may yet pressure him to join in too.

Surely Mandelson would be about 100 steps too far Muddha

I can't believe I'm actually dreaming about the Labour leadership elections

that's twice this week. I woke up this morning muttering 'but what about SCOTLAND'

what indeed. I haven't even changed my address to get the ballot slips

so. So far we've had Blair, Campbell. We're going to have Brown telling us all off at the weekend. I wonder if they'll get desperate enough to wheel Mandelson out?

*he'll