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If Jeremy Corbyn is 'out of touch' why are his views so popular with the UK public?

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blacksunday · 01/08/2015 11:53

If anyone is out of touch with public opinion, says Ian Sinclair, it is not Jeremy Corbyn but the three other Labour leadership contenders.

“I don’t bother writing about Fox News. It is too easy”, American dissident Noam Chomsky explained in 2010.

“What I talk about are the liberal intellectuals, the ones who portray themselves and perceive themselves as challenging power, as courageous, as standing up for truth and justice. They are basically the guardians of the faith. They set the limits. They tell us how far we can go. They say, ‘Look how courageous I am.’ But do not go one millimeter beyond that.”

The recent column about the Labour leadership contest from the Guardian’s highly influential Labour-supporting commentator Polly Toynbee provides a perfect example of Chomsky’s truism.

According to Toynbee, of the four hopefuls the Labour left candidate Jeremy Corbyn “is the free spirit, the outsider not playing by the usual political rules.” And that, apparently, is precisely the problem with the Member of Parliament for Islington North: “Unfettered by what a majority of voters beyond Islington might support in a real election, he’s a romantic, saying what no doubt many Labour members believe”.

Smearing by association, Toynbee dismisses Corbyn as “a 1983 man” and “a relic”. Voting for Corbyn “is ignoring the electorate”, according to Toynbee.

Having finished her demolition, Toynbee then literally erases Corbyn from the race, arrogantly debating the prospects of “the three main contenders” before settling on the shadow Home Secretary Yvette Cooper as the most promising candidate.

Toynbee’s argument echoes the feelings of a large section of the so-called progressive, liberal intelligentsia. “I could probably live with any of the other candidates”, noted Labour MP and BBC commentator Alan Johnson about Corbyn, likening his politics to electoral “suicide”.

Ditto the Guardian’s Martin Kettle (“Corbyn offers a programme of prelapsarian socialist purity”), the Telegraph’s Dan Hodges, (Corbyn is proof “crazy Labour is alive and well”) and Blairite foot soldier David Aaronovitch.

As Chomsky said: do not go “one millimetre beyond” the limits of acceptable debate.

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Corbyn's positions and the public

But how valid is Toynbee’s central criticism – that Corbyn is out of touch with public opinion? Let’s look at the polling data on some of Corbyn’s key political stances:

He supports a publicly run NHS, a position supported by 84 per cent of the public, according to a November 2013 YouGov poll.

He supports the nationalisation of the railways, a position backed by 66 percent of the public, including a majority of Conservative voters, according to the same poll.

He supports the nationalisation of the energy companies, a position supported by 68 percent of the public, including a majority of Conservative voters, according to the same poll.

He believes the Royal Mail should be publicly owned, a position supported by 67 percent of the public, according to the same poll.
He supports rent controls, a position supported by 60% of the public, including 42% of Conservatives, according to an April 2015 YouGov poll.

He opposes the retention of Trident nuclear weapons, a position John Curtice, Professor of Politics at Strathclyde University, notes is supported by a "smallish plurality" in "the majority of polls".

He strongly opposed the 2003 Iraq War, which was also opposed by the more than one million people who marched through London on 15 February 2003.

He has long pushed for the withdrawal of British troops from Afghanistan, a position favoured by 82 per cent of the public, according to a May 2014 YouGov poll.

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Who's out of touch?

So, contrary to Toynbee’s assertions, Corbyn’s key political positions are in actual fact supported by a majority of the British public. (And arguably the issues that Corbyn is out of step with public opinion on, such as immigration and welfare, are those that have been engulfed in huge amounts of media-driven ignorance).

In short, if anyone is out of touch with public opinion, it is not Corbyn but Toynbee, most of the liberal intelligentsia and the three other Labour leadership contenders.

www.stopwar.org.uk/news/is-jeremy-corbyn-the-unacceptable-romantic-face-of-british-politics

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claig · 01/08/2015 15:56

'They need to get the press onside first though'

The press will never be on Corbyn's side. Blair went to war and the press backed him. They won't back Corbyn.

RC1234 · 01/08/2015 15:31

Let's face it none of the candidates are general election winners. It is all very well to quote survey figures but it depends on how the questions were framed. I want the NHS to stay in public hands and some kind of mechanism to make rental accommodation affordable would be good, but only because things have got out of hand. The other things just are not priorities for anyone that I know in real life - they are priorities for the unions who hold too much sway in the labour party. Not that they are a bad thing but lets face it they specialise in rights at work not running the country, so their focus is too narrow - renationalisation of the utility companies will solve very little for most people. Conservatives publicly appear to support the NHS as it is just with more weekend working, which the average person in the street actually thinks would be quite convenient (actually the critical services are there and it works really well - the problem is that people think that their personal GP should be there 24-7). The Conservatives are not going to support rent controls - that could be a vote winner if carefully designed to be fair to both parties but what might be more important is to remove the issues with the stigma about housing benefit. Maybe Jeremy is smart - he is just playing for the union vote and maybe Labour need a complete opposite to Cameron. They need to get the press onside first though!

HowDdo2You · 01/08/2015 14:21

The more they mock him the more worried they must be.

claig · 01/08/2015 14:14

blacksunday, you are correct for the first time on here, Corbyn is not out of touch

antimatter · 01/08/2015 13:37

Is is called the Ivory Tower where the likes of such comentators live?
I am looking forward to the last weeks leading to the Labour election.

Each side has supporters but it all boils to the numbers of vites casted on the day.
Also polls are in Corbyn's favour as if few days ago.

blacksunday · 01/08/2015 13:11

Oh be quiet, Claig. Neither Corbyn nor the public need support from fascist supporters.

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claig · 01/08/2015 12:41

Correct. Corbyn is not out of touch which is why they are "worried sick" about Corbyn, his real prospects and how he will change the system.

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