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Natter for labour party members

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YeOldeTrout · 22/07/2015 20:43

Who are you minded to vote for? How have you decided?

Leader & deputy leader.
I can't make up my mind. The commentators seem to say things about each candidate that are quite different from the impressions I get.

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orangeyellowgreen · 03/09/2015 20:45

Have any £3 supporters had their e mail ballot yet? Anyone know when we will get to vote?

squidzin · 03/09/2015 20:43

HamaTime
I'd be worried if u haven't got yours yet. I voted online.

Contact the labour party registry and check your details are on the electoral register.

claig · 03/09/2015 20:42

Sky full-time poll
"Who do you think won the debate?"

Corbyn 80.6%
Kendall 9.1%
Cooper 5.7%
Burnham 4.6%

Andy Burnham came out badly. Surprising, as I thought he and Liz were about even and Cooper was the worst.

claig · 03/09/2015 20:40

Blair possibly now hitting the bottle as he can't understand what the hell is going on and how the people have abandoned his "vision", the people don't want to take his "journey".

claig · 03/09/2015 20:37

Cooper threw everything she had at Corbyn with a desperate, whining, pleading think type type argument against People's QE. She failed miserably. Corbyn remained calm and unscathed. Cooper's advisers must now be desperate, all their plans have failed. Audience applauding Corbyn wildly. It's all over. Corbyn to be leader. Establishment in meltdown as their three candidates failed to stop or even dent Corbyn.

HamaTime · 03/09/2015 20:31

Anyone else not got their ballot yet? I re-applied on sept 1st, like they said...

Fucking Hell he's on 84% now!!!!!!!

squidzin · 03/09/2015 20:26

In a good way.

squidzin · 03/09/2015 20:25

Fucking wow.

claig · 03/09/2015 19:54

Sky half-time poll
"Who do you think is winning?"

Corbyn 75.6%
Kendall 9.1%
Cooper 6%
Burnham 9.3%

I would agree with that. Cooper is doing very badly, doesn't sound confident or real.

gingercat12 · 03/09/2015 19:52

I am quite impressed by Yvette actually. I was in studio, so not sure about welcome

claig · 03/09/2015 19:15

Yvette hopeless. Wants councils to come forward and say how many refugees they are willing to take. She urges people to "contact their councils" and urge them to help. That is not leadership. Liz Kendall rightly said we need leadership from the Prime Minister. Burnham also sounded like a leader and said he would take charge. Waiting for councils to suggest how many they can take is not leadership, it is nonsense.

claig · 03/09/2015 18:58

Sky reporting that Corbyn received a hero's welcome as he stepped out of his cab. No mention of the reception received by the Establishment trio, no idea whether rotten tomatoes were involved or not.

claig · 03/09/2015 18:50

gingercat12, are there real socialists outside the hall generously handing out free earmuffs to the audience to block out the think tank generated spin of the Establishment candidates?

claig · 03/09/2015 18:40

So you are in Gateshead Smile
Corbyn, the people's candidate, was seen entering the building and the Establishment candidates arrived too. Great stuff, let the games begin, let's see who is still standing at the end.

gingercat12 · 03/09/2015 18:34

I know I am there.

claig · 03/09/2015 18:26

Labour leadership debate on Sky News starting at 18.30 ending at 21.00 today

gingercat12 · 03/09/2015 17:31

At hustings. I have voted already, but want to see in person how recent events changed their views.

gingercat12 · 26/08/2015 09:08

Sounds like a plan to me.

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YeOldeTrout · 25/08/2015 21:13

Who knows re Tories paying 3 quid to vote.

I reckon Labour party should shut up with legal challenges & so on. Let the election run its course. Then in next Parliament every MP votes according to conscience & ignores the whips. No need to threaten secession. Corbyn's position will become untenable. JC will moan about nobody playing ball & the MPs can shrug & say they just did as he used to do. In 18 months the rules can be quietly changed to make it harder for infiltrators & someone like Jarvis can swoop in to be coronated.

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gingercat12 · 25/08/2015 16:52

YeOldeTrout I voted Cooper, Burnham, and I can't remember the rest. Then Bradshaw, Creasy, Eagle.

Does anybody think there will be a legal challenge after the vote? I might try to go to the last televised hustings next week to see if the relationship among the candidates changed.

Are Tories really voting for Labour leader you think? I am pretty politically active, canvassing even on election day till 7pm, but it would not occur to me to vote for the Conservative leader. Are these mythical shy Tory voters this committed even in the middle of the summer holidays?

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YeOldeTrout · 24/08/2015 12:32

I've done it, voted I mean, preferences in this order:
Kendall Cooper Burnham &
Creasy Bradshaw Flint Eagle

Anyone else who actually gets to vote, want to share?

Oh well, when Corbyn & Watson when I will have clear reasons for not renewing membership, I suppose.

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YeOldeTrout · 23/08/2015 22:03

argh, I still haven't decided who to vote for. Only that I'm not voting for Corbyn at all.

argh.

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gingercat12 · 14/08/2015 22:55

Elisaveta I will be out canvassing no matter which candidate wins, too.

EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 14/08/2015 20:21

I agree with you Chablis, the vitriol with which different factions of the party attack each other, leaving the Tories to ravage the country at will is depressing. I haven't posted on here since saying I would like to vote for a woman, and immediately being called Blairite (for the hard of thinking, Blair is a man). I intend to vote for Corbyn, but whichever candidate becomes leader, I will be out leafleting and canvassing, and thereby earning the contempt of a chunk of MN. (Though if it's Kendall I might have more lie ins of a weekend).

gingercat12 · 12/08/2015 22:09

Not to derail the subject, but I will vote for Yvette Cooper. Her campaign is not nearly as good Jeremy Corbyn's, but her record on analysing the effect of cuts and her sensibility make me choose her.

My friends (who I thought were staunch Corbyn-supporters) will all vote for Andy Burnham. I like him, but I think being a professional northerner is just not enough to get Labour back into power.

Not decided on deputy yet, they all seem quite good.

Re Serbia, please, do not forget that Central-Eastern-Southern Europe is a lot more historically rich and diverse place than Western powers (i.e. French and English) credit them for. Bombing them into the Middle ages or using your child's doodles as new borders are hardly ever the answers. Just think of Iraq or Afghanistan. Bosnia is apparently Isis's new target, and the divide amongst neighbouring nations are deeper than ever. TB is my hero (still), but I will never forgive him and Hungarian PM Orban for bombing innocent civilians.