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Good luck to SNP MP Mhairi Black

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claig · 11/05/2015 19:21

She is phenomenal - just 20 years old, SNP MP.

"I'm not the one who should be nervous, the people who are responsible for so much poverty and so much struggle in people's lives, they're the ones who should be nervous becase they're the ones who are going to held accountable for all the damage that they do to people"

Thet are going to shake our usual spinners up. They won't know what hit them. The SNP have some great women MPs - saw some of them on TV over the weekendm a real breath of fresh air - they are going to shake things up and not put up with the bowing and doffing of caps crap.

They don't conform to the traditional profile of our useless lot. This is a bit like the movie "Mr Smith Goes to Washington". I can't remember what happens in that movie though.

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claig · 13/05/2015 18:41

I hope she doesn't change her appearance, because what counts is being genuine and comfortable and confident with how one is. I don't want her to become like a Gordon Brown who needs teams of spin doctors and consultants to tell him which tie goes with his shoes.

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MagentaVitus · 13/05/2015 18:41

It just shows a breathtaking lack of awareness IMO.

And experience.

She's an idiot.

SantanaLopez · 13/05/2015 18:37

On May 2nd she tweeted
Another busy day for myself and of course #teammhairi everyday counts now let's get rid of career politician Douglas Alexander #VoteSNP

..... nothing spells out career politician more than MP before you graduate.

It just shows a breathtaking lack of awareness IMO.

And yes, her appearance isn't great. In my pre SAHM days I'd have been sent home from work for looking like that.

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claig · 13/05/2015 18:37

Nicola Sturgeon is very good and so is Alex Salmond. But she is even better. She has the qualities of passion, anger and conviction combined. Everything else fades into insignificance. Appearance is irrelevant, it is what she says and how she says it that counts.

She has a forcefulness and conviction that earns respect and that is why Sadiq Khan, one of Labour's biggest hitters, whose appearance may be immaculate, looked like a minnow compated to the 20 year old politics student from Glasgow.

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Jackieharris · 13/05/2015 18:34

A student who wears cheap clothes! Oh the shame!

Annunziata · 13/05/2015 18:31

I don't think she is a natural or clear speaker. I think the accent is very forced to be as Scottish and as Paisley as possible.

Weebirdie · 13/05/2015 18:30

I hope the best of labour are wearing their hard hats in case she puts the nut on them.

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claig · 13/05/2015 18:29

If we had a few like her in UKIP to back Farage up, we would scare the entire shower that is the esablished parties up.

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ArcheryAnnie · 13/05/2015 18:29

Because she is being criticised for not 'knowing her place' and staying a good quiet pleb who leaves the 'proper' work to the big boys old grey men.

Er, no she hasn't. Many people, including me, welcome and actively push for more women in parliament. Just not 20-year-old ones, of any stripe.

My pleb-related criticism is that she isn't plebbish enough - she's being touted as a working-class hero when that's not what I see at all, based on her background.

She's an elected parliamentarian on £67k a year. If she stands for parliament like any other adult, she has to expect to be scrutinised like any other adult.

Annunziata · 13/05/2015 18:28

Do they have standards for appearance? Are they applying them equally? Are you?

Of course people have standards for appearance. You expect your child's teacher to be sensibly and well dressed. You expect the worker in a bank to look respectable.

Her suits are cheap and don't fit her well. The ponytail and the fringe plapped down don't look professional at all, it is far too severe and not modern looking at all. Her posture is dreadful, she slouches her shoulders.

It is very naive to blame others for judging. When you are doing something extraordinary you have to go that bit further to prove yourself.

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claig · 13/05/2015 18:24

She is a brilliant speaker. She is a natural. She is more convincing than Nicola Sturgeon. She speaks slowly, clearly and emphatically and with a passion that enthuses the audience. I think she will go right to the top and very quickly.

I can't wait to see her in TV debates taking the best that Labour have got on.

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HirplesWithHaggis · 13/05/2015 18:21

Her father is Alan Black, a retired teacher.

RJnomore · 13/05/2015 18:20

Sorry cross post Blush

RJnomore · 13/05/2015 18:19

She's not, her dad's called Alan

Weebirdie · 13/05/2015 18:18

She's not Jack Black's daughter.

MorrisZapp · 13/05/2015 18:17

I'm minded of the SSP MSPs who pitched up to Holyrood in New Look's finest and wrote slogans on their hands. Any question or policy query was met with forthright chat about 'Tony Blai-uhhhrs illeguhl war'. It was one note and repetitive.

Of course a party can be 'direct' in opposition. I can't see how she could possibly make mincemeat of a time served policy maker, but we'll find out soon enough.

weeburrower1 · 13/05/2015 18:17

No, she's not Jack Black's daughter.

OneMagnumisneverenough · 13/05/2015 18:17

I don't know her personally but from what i have seen of her on TV, I pity the people she has been elected to represent - she came across as a bit of a dick.

Weebirdie · 13/05/2015 18:16

Annunziata isn't small or mean.

She's put the opinion of many people across very well.

weeburrower1 · 13/05/2015 18:16

Do they have standards for appearance? Are they applying them equally? Are you?

Annunziata · 13/05/2015 18:15

Apparently she's not RJ. I'm not sure- two different people told me that.

Annunziata · 13/05/2015 18:15

No, they have standards for elected representatives on £67,000 a year and how they carry themselves in public.

Let us not forget that Miss Mhairi has demonstrated a rather wonderful ability to judge others too....

weeburrower1 · 13/05/2015 18:15

Judging someone's ability on their appearance is entirely unreasonable.

If someone was dressed inappropriately then there may be a point. Deciding she's a wee bit scruffy, no, that's not a basis to judge someone's ability.

RJnomore · 13/05/2015 18:14

Just catching up with this.

Fuck me, she's jack blacks daughter?

Did not know that. That's worse really re the tweets.

MagentaVitus · 13/05/2015 18:12

Yes, the general public do tend to judge the people running the country. To, you know, decide whether or not they want them to continue representing them.

Not unreasonable imo!