Good luck to SNP MP Mhairi Black

'sectarian abuse', 'continued her antics during the campaign' - neither of those things happened. She's never been sectarian. If you're going to criticise her, don't make things up to do so.

And to those referring to the antics of the Bullingdon club need to be reminded that was almost 30 years ago, those MPs grew up. This new MP was continuing in her usual antics during the election. I don't know what they were thinking voting her in

They were about her age.

She was voted in. That's democracy.

And those in power now-many of them haven't had proper jobs! Or a normal upbringing as they're rich and insulated.

What on earth is real life experience?

Her dad is the motivational speaker Jack Black. She's not the daughter of a miner or anything! She certainly must have had a very comfortable home life.

And then from school right to university. She has barely experience of anything.

There are pranks and there is sectarian abuse. Imagine if someone had been racist when they were 18, would you all be defending them without a grovelling apology?

And yes 20 years is plenty old enough to marry and have children and die for your country etc... etc... I'd happily say there are many 20 year olds very capable of being an MP... She is not one of them.

"She is a 20 year old! If there was ever a reason for an age bar on entering Parliament, she is it. She is a crass, heavy drinking, foul-mouthed teen. I teach teenagers and most of those I teach are worth a dozen of her. She will be tabloid fodder when she relaxes her guard and gets pissed on the Terrace on cheap booze."

^ This

And to those referring to the antics of the Bullingdon club need to be reminded that was almost 30 years ago, those MPs grew up. This new MP was continuing in her usual antics during the election. I don't know what they were thinking voting her in.

I am hoping the 56 SNP MPs heading to London will broaden their horizons, see themselves as part of the larger struggle for creating a decent society regardless of where you were born or live and start to question their narrow nationalism.

She has a lot more of the real life experience I want to see in politicians than the bullington club boys have.

How is it we think 20 is old enough to found a family, pay tax, die in war but not sit as an mp?

Parliament is meant to be representative, that means a mix of people not just the stale pale male mould.

I seem to be one of the few that is not at all impressed with this woman. I'm all for young voices in parliament but Mhari Black does not come across well.

Im not impressed with her either.

So, it is OK for people who trashed restaurants to be the chancellor of the exchequer/PM/Mayor of London? Because they're rich and part of the elite?

But not for a 20 year old to be an MP?

She will be running her own office, not the country. She won't be making laws.

Good for her.

Bloody hell claig, it's a bit of a switch from Farridge to the SNP innit? Still, I suppose both are nationalists though each is from opposing sides. Garage is from the austerity loving racist right and Black is from the austerity denying left.

Actually, Prof Steve Keen has interesting views on austerity, he's well worth looking up. I'd certainly vote for him to replace the Gidiot. Mind you, I'd vote for a cauliflour to replace the towel folder...

Standard grade gaelic at school...now so long ago that I know about names, numbers and a couple of insults that the teacher's son taught us when she wasn't around, lol.

Yes I suppose she doesn't seem backwards at coming forwards right enough, she'd correct it if it was wrong.

I'll let it get back to more serious discussion now my random middle of the night nosiness is done.

Ah well, you obv know more than me about Gaelic, I've maybe educated some others! But yes, I think she usually pronounces it Marry, because I've never heard her correct anyone. And she's not a shy one.

I know about the vocative case...that's why I was asking, lol.

Usually in Gaelic the name is Mairi and the h is only there when you talk to someone named Mairi, but people who spell it Mhairi usually pronounce it like that too.

It's entirely trivial, I just wondered if it was because she says Mairi or if it was just being read that way...I assume it must be how she says it, or there'd be a fuss about not pronouncing it right though.

I have a friend called Mhairi, who pronounces it Varry. Ms Black does seem to pronounce it Marry. Apparently (as I have learned over the last couple of days) it should be Marry if you're talking about her, and Varry if you're talking to her, as Gaelic has a vocative case. I knew this applied to Hamish/Seamus, was not aware of the Mhairi thing but it makes sense.

(If you're wondering, it's Seamus if you're talking about him, Hamish if you're speaking to him.)

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Her name...they're all pronouncing it like Mairi, is that because that's how she pronounces it?

I actually think youthful indiscretions should be able to be set aside when someone stands for parliament, but that rather presumes a gap between the indiscretions and the standing.

I believe we also have to bear in mind that 20 years ago, there was far less opportunity to make an arse of oneself in an indelible way on the internet. Fortunately there were only a few people subject to my more strident views as a younger, my unrequited loves and my dubious hairdos For kids these days, it's unavoidable. We do have to give allowance IMO for people growing up.

That said, I'm unconvinced that she's moved away from being the person with the online indiscretions that are rightly not acceptable coming from an adult. On that basis and her utter lack of experience, I think she has absolutely no business being an MP.

She's an utter disgrace? She'll be in good company in HoP then.

I swop my middle aged, white, male MP for her in a heartbeat.

I only watched the beginning of that video linked above (the one with Sadiq Khan) but it made me cross that she spoke about how she would not have been able to afford to go to university if she was English because she would have to "fork out" £9k in fees, as if that money had to be found upfront. I wasn't sure if this was ignorance of the English student funding system or a deliberate misrepresentation. In either event, it was unfortunate that she seemed to suggest that going to university in England was dependent upon one's ability to find £27k upfront, particularly as this was to an audience of young voters who might have been put off going to university by her words.

I find it quite worrying how feted she has been. I can also see her suspended and glorying in it.

What life experience does she have whatsoever? Her crowning achievement to date is being picked for the boy's football team Fantastic.

Her tweets are appalling all round. Everyone does silly things when they are young, but she cannot even apologise for them- that is what I find especially worrying.

She doesn't even look particularly professional. Dress for the job you want, remember?

I foresee various exclusions from the HofC to be honest

And who will be blamed, when this happens? Everyone else but her, you can see it coming, because she is fighting for Scotland It will be like the daft group at school who think they're great because they've been excluded for a week.

Is her dad really the motivational speaker Jack Black? I heard a rumour but I wasn't sure.

I agree annunziata. It shows a worrying lack of insight

I foresee various exclusions from the HofC to be honest

Because that is an excuse?!

She has not even apologised, she said it should be put in the perspective of Tony Blair starting a war.

She is a disgrace.

Annunziata, maybe she wasn't old enough to be an MP when she tweeted that stuff.

Absolutely, Mhairi is brilliant. She's been portrayed as a sectarian thug (as a teenager she tweeted about Celtic in a negative way, and wanted to "put the nut" on someone) but she's managed to laugh it off. Fantastic young woman.

This is sickening. If you are old enough to be an MP you are old enough to know that is vile.